Episode Summary: Filmed live at the Wiltern, Theo Von sits down with boxing legend Mike Tyson for an incredibly candid, funny, and deeply emotional conversation. They explore Tyson's traumatic childhood, his intense relationship with mentor Cus D'Amato, the dark depths of his substance abuse, and the spiritual evolution that brought him peace later in life.
Key Themes:
The life-saving power of extreme mentorship and structure.
The chaotic reality of sudden fame, wealth, and ego.
Brutal honesty about addiction, relapses, and recovery.
Processing childhood trauma, poverty, and isolation.
The philosophical views of mortality, love, and self-preservation.
3. TIMESTAMP DIRECTORY
[00:00:08] — Intro & Wardrobe — Theo introduces Mike Tyson; discussion on dressing sharply.
[00:04:08] — Sobriety & Substance Abuse — Tyson discusses being a drug user, escaping himself, and his 9 years of sobriety.
[00:07:33] — Mentorship with Cus D'Amato — The profound impact Cus had on young Tyson, offering structure and fierce protection. ⭐
[00:17:12] — Childhood Trauma & Poverty — Reflecting on poverty, his mother, and growing up in a house of crime.
[00:22:15] — The N-Word Anecdote — Theo tells a provocative childhood story, resulting in a hilariously uncomfortable and memorable exchange. ⭐
[00:25:07] — Ad Reads — PrizePicks, MoonPay, Paramount Plus.
[00:28:24] — Hollywood Stories — Meeting Jimmy Walker, Michael Jackson snubbing him, and Whitney Houston visiting him in prison.
[00:34:47] — Prison & Solitude — Surviving the hole, 24-hour lights, and finding peace in being alone.
[00:41:41] — The Pigeon Bully — The story of a bully killing his pigeon, which sparked Tyson's first fight and love for boxing.
[00:45:46] — The Brad Pitt Incident — Tyson catches Brad Pitt in the driveway with his ex-wife. ⭐
[00:48:50] — Ad Reads — BlueChew, Liquid IV, Tecovas.
[00:52:58] — Fame & Ego — Balancing immense fame, ego, and remaining grounded in the present.
[00:53:51] — Kiki Tyson & Fatherhood — Praising his wife Kiki as a mother and defender, and discussing giving his kids a better life.
[01:04:31] — Deep Addiction Tales — Wild stories of fake urine tests, cocaine in rehab, and smoking crack accidentally.
[01:11:36] — Cuba & Russian Escorts — Traveling to Cuba, meeting Castro, and the linguistic skills of international escorts.
[01:16:22] — The Buster Douglas Loss — Discussing the fight in Japan and losing the belt.
[01:18:11] — Hulk Hogan's Funeral — Theo shares an anecdote about Hulk Hogan's funeral and a bizarre interaction with Jim McMahon.
[01:23:48] — Historical Heroes — Tyson's admiration for conquerors like Alexander the Great and understanding ego through history.
[01:26:00] — True Discipline — Redefining discipline as doing what you hate like you love it.
[01:30:07] — Final Thoughts & Peace — Selling semen jokes, the one-man show, what Cus would say today, and finding ultimate joy in family.
4. PEOPLE MENTIONED
Theo Von: Host of This Past Weekend. Mentions childhood stories, rehab experiences, and stand-up. [Watch Segment], [] Official Site
Michael Jackson: Pop icon. Snubbed Tyson backstage at a concert in Cleveland. [Watch Segment], [], [] Wikipedia
Don King: Boxing promoter. Orchestrated the Michael Jackson concert visit. [Watch Segment], [] Wikipedia
Tupac Shakur: Rapper. Briefly mentioned by Tyson while discussing Jackson. [Watch Segment] Wikipedia
Whitney Houston: Legendary singer. Visited Tyson in prison. [Watch Segment], [] Wikipedia
Michael Landon: Actor. Joke about him visiting Tyson in prison. [Watch Segment] Wikipedia
Patrick Swayze: Actor. Mentioned in the dead celebrities joke. [Watch Segment] Wikipedia
Florence Henderson: Actress. Visited Tyson in prison while he was in solitary confinement. [Watch Segment] Wikipedia
Kiki Tyson (Lakiha Spicer): Tyson's wife. Praised for saving his life, writing his one-man show, and being an incredible mother. [Watch Segment], [], [] Wikipedia
Miguel Tyson: Tyson's son. Present at the show. [Watch Segment]
Milan Tyson: Tyson's daughter. Present at the show. [Watch Segment]
Cam Newton: NFL quarterback. Theo tells a story of seeing him push a stroller in Charlotte. [Watch Segment] Wikipedia
Brad Pitt: Actor. Caught by Tyson in a driveway with his ex-wife. [Watch Segment], [] Wikipedia
Hulk Hogan: Iconic pro wrestler. Theo discusses attending his funeral (Note: Hogan is alive, this might have been a slip for another wrestler, but documented exactly as spoken). [Watch Segment], [] Wikipedia
Jim McMahon: NFL Quarterback (Chicago Bears). Showed Theo his butthole at a pool in Palm Springs. [Watch Segment], [] Wikipedia
Explanation: The psychological shift where a neglected child realizes they must rely entirely on themselves, effectively ending their childhood instantly.
Explanation: True discipline isn't just doing what is hard; it is doing what you absolutely despise with the enthusiasm and commitment as if you loved it.
Applied: Tyson states that if God created life and it is good, then death must inherently also be good.
10. QUOTES & SOUNDBITES
Tier 1 — Top Quotes (8-12):
"God broke me before he crowned me. Of course I'm going to be able to handle it." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
"If I didn't have the parents I had, I would never be me." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
"Poverty is just so beautiful sometimes if you can laugh at it." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment]
"The solitude is very healthy. Most of us... haven't developed a relationship with ourselves where we adore ourselves." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
"If you ever do any drugs and you beat the system that was killing you, you're going to die, boom. But sometimes these guys stop using for 30 years and go back... you're never safe." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment]
"If life is good, how could death be bad? Be honest. If God loved us, how could death really be bad if he created it?" — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
"Always say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself, 'cause my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not." — Mike Tyson (quoting Cus D'Amato) [Watch Segment] ⭐
"I walk with poverty and I sit with presence." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
"The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment] ⭐
Tier 2 — Notable Mentions:
"I had to earn that... after every time I finished training I had to mop and sweep the gym... even when I was a big shot." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment]
"I think after a while I couldn't even listen to myself 'cause it's like, well, how many times am I going to lead myself on?" — Theo Von [Watch Segment]
"I'm humbled enough to know that I could be replaced, but I'm confident to know that nobody in the world is like me." — Mike Tyson [Watch Segment]
Master Your Internal Dialogue: Stop saying negative things about yourself, even as a joke. Your subconscious cannot tell the difference. (Recommended by Mike Tyson/Cus D'Amato) [Watch Segment] — Habit
Embrace Ultimate Discipline: Force yourself to do the tasks you despise, but perform them with the energy and enthusiasm of tasks you love. (Recommended by Mike Tyson) [Watch Segment] — Major Undertaking
Build Integrity with Yourself: Stop making promises to yourself that you don't keep, otherwise you will lose the ability to trust your own instincts. (Recommended by Theo Von) [Watch Segment] — Habit
Find Comfort in Solitude: Spend time completely alone to develop a relationship with yourself where you actually adore your own presence. (Recommended by Mike Tyson) [Watch Segment] — Major Undertaking
Start Here: Begin by strictly monitoring your self-talk. Refuse to self-deprecate, even in humor, to protect your subconscious mind.
Theo: "Do you ever look at your own face and you know which scars are from which fights?" [Watch Segment]
Answer: Tyson explains they come from an accumulation of fighting over years, not just one hit overnight.
Theo: "What was it like with Cus outside of the ring?" [Watch Segment]
Answer: Tyson explains he had to earn his room, do chores, sweep the gym, and get his grades up.
Theo: "If you had the stereotypical things that people need as a child, would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world?" [Watch Segment]
Answer: Tyson aggressively says no, he would have been a "bitch" and he embraces the suffering that built him. ⭐
Theo: "How do you make that guy [your true self] appear?" [Watch Segment]
Answer: Theo answers his own question, talking about keeping promises to himself to rebuild self-integrity.
Theo: "Did anybody ever approach you to buy your semen?" [Watch Segment]
Answer: Tyson hilariously responds he gave it away for free and had no idea there was a market for it.
Questions They Didn’t Ask: How exactly did Tyson manage his extreme anxiety before his biggest fights, mechanically, in the locker room?
15. STORIES, ANECDOTES & CASE STUDIES
The Pigeon Bully: (Personal Anecdote) [Watch Segment]
Summary: A bully named Gary Flowers ripped the head off Tyson's pigeon. This provoked Tyson's very first fight, birthing his love and obsession with fighting.
Characters: Mike Tyson, Gary Flowers.
The Michael Jackson Snub: (Personal Anecdote) [Watch Segment]
Summary: After becoming champion, Tyson went backstage at a Michael Jackson concert. Despite Tyson being universally famous, Jackson coldly asked, "Where do I know you from?" Tyson hated him until they actually met intimately years later.
Characters: Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson, Don King.
Brad Pitt in the Driveway: (Personal Anecdote) [Watch Segment]
Summary: During his divorce proceedings, Tyson showed up to his ex-wife's house and found her arriving in the BMW he bought her, with a young, terrified Brad Pitt.
Characters: Mike Tyson, Brad Pitt.
The Rehab Coke Swap: (Cautionary Tale) [Watch Segment]
Summary: Attempting to be a "good guy" in rehab, Tyson gave his last stash of cocaine to a staff member. The staff member kept it and started acting erratic, infuriating Tyson.
Characters: Mike Tyson, Rehab Staff.
Hulk Hogan's Funeral Chaos: (Personal Anecdote) [Watch Segment]
Summary: Theo attended a wrestling funeral where Vince McMahon delivered a eulogy, and Jim McMahon randomly flashed his butthole at a pool party.
Characters: Theo Von, Jim McMahon, Vince McMahon.
16. ARGUMENTS, POSITIONS & DEBATES
The Necessity of Suffering for Greatness [Watch Segment]
Position: Extreme hardship and lack of coddling are required to achieve world-conquering success.
Who holds it: Mike Tyson.
Stance: Strongly Held. He explicitly rejects the idea that a normal, healthy childhood would have produced the Heavyweight Champion, asserting it would have made him weak.
Position: Because God created life, and life is good, death—being a natural creation of God—must also be fundamentally good.
Who holds it: Mike Tyson.
Stance: Nuanced/Spiritual. A peaceful acceptance of mortality.
The Threat of Elite Medical Advancements [Watch Segment]
Position: The elite will soon have access to injections/pills that keep them vigorous and dominant for decades longer, creating a massive societal divide.
Who holds it: Mike Tyson & Theo Von.
Stance: Speculative but agreed upon.
17. PROBLEMS, SOLUTIONS & FRAMEWORKS
Problem: Debilitating lack of self-esteem and identity in a traumatized child. [Watch Segment]
Solution: The Subconscious Reprogramming Framework. Cus D'Amato instructed Tyson to never speak negatively about himself, because the subconscious mind cannot distinguish between a self-deprecating joke and a genuine belief.
Problem: Overwhelming ego and the inevitable fall from grace for conquerors. [Watch Segment]
Solution: Historical perspective. By studying Alexander the Great and Napoleon, Tyson realized that uncontrollable moods and unchecked megalomania are fatal flaws to be actively suppressed.
Problem: Chronic relapse and the inability to trust oneself in addiction. [Watch Segment]
Solution: The Integrity Habit. Theo explains the solution is making small, actionable promises to yourself and strictly keeping them to rebuild a track record of self-trust.
Triggered by: Discussing the bizarre, funny things done in poverty.
Flow: Theo tells a wild story about jumping over ditch-fires to get covered in soot so passing cars would yell racial slurs at him, leading Tyson to force Theo to repeatedly say "I'm a n**** lover." A wildly uncomfortable but purely comedic connection.
Triggered by: Tyson mentioning his deep studies of Tolstoy and Alexander the Great.
Flow: Tyson talks about the ego of gods, Theo pivots to existential self-awareness, then dramatically hard-pivots into asking if anyone ever tried to buy Tyson's semen.
Conversational Flow Diagram:
The conversation roots heavily in deep trauma (childhood, Cus, prison) → branches into wild, chaotic Hollywood/addiction stories (Michael Jackson, Brad Pitt, Rehab) → reconnects to spiritual philosophies (Death, Mentorship, History) → ends on absurd comedic peaks (Jim McMahon's butthole, selling semen).
Section 1: Overall vibe
The comment section is overwhelmingly positive, reverent, and a little emotional; people clearly see this as an all‑timer episode for both Mike and Theo. Fans are quoting lines like “God broke me before he crowned me” and “I’ve been waiting for me to show up,” treating them like life advice rather than just jokes. There is some light constructive criticism about wishing the show wasn’t in front of a live crowd, but it’s framed as love for the conversation, not hate. Overall sentiment is roughly 80% positive, 15% reflective/neutral, 5% mildly negative or critical.youtube
Section 2: Top 5 fan favorite comments
Quote: “God broke me before he crowned me” powerful words from Mike
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Why it resonated: It captures Mike’s whole redemption arc in one sentence and people are treating it as a motto about suffering before success.youtube
Quote: "@toddpaluzzi "I'm humble enough to know I can be replaced, I'm confident enough to know there's nobody else like me" I swear every interview or podcast from the champ has a quote to make you pause and contemplate. Bless up Mike!"
Author: @toddpaluzzi
Why it resonated: It highlights a perfectly balanced line between humility and self‑belief, which fans see as peak “older, wiser Tyson.”youtube
Quote: ""I didn't think I would like you" nhe's always honest"
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Why it resonated: Viewers love Mike’s brutal honesty and how it turns into genuine affection for Theo by the end of the episode.youtube
Quote: ""My whole life i feel like I've been waiting for someone to show up and now i realize i think i was just waiting on me to show up" theo von with the bars. This whole podcast was legendary. Mike is the man"
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Why it resonated: Theo’s self‑reflection about “waiting on me to show up” hits hard for people who relate to late emotional growth and recovery.youtube
Quote: "This episode will go down in history. It's the best interview Mike has ever had, and the best Theo has ever given. Legendary"
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Why it resonated: Fans are calling this a career‑defining episode for both of them, so this comment becomes a shorthand verdict others agree with.youtube
(Also very high‑engagement but slightly outside top 5: “Who wants a 2nd interview with no crowd.” / “I feel like this would have been 20x better if the audience wasn’t there.”)youtube
Section 3: Top 5 insightful comments
Quote: "Theo's ability to navigate any tension in the conversation into a direction that makes his guest feel more at ease is remarkable, he's very emotionally intelligent"
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Why it's worth reading: It correctly identifies Theo’s main skill here: steering intense or awkward moments into something vulnerable without breaking the vibe.youtube
Quote: "Mike can never talk about Cus without crying, and I love everything about that."
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Why it's worth reading: It points to the most emotionally charged through‑line in Mike’s life, underscoring how central Cus D’Amato still is to him.youtube
Quote: ""He was born only for me". What a beautiful way to honour his mentor"
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Why it's worth reading: This isolates one of the most poetic lines in the episode and frames it as a statement about destiny and mentorship.youtube
Quote: ""The smarter I get, the more I hurt, bro"- Theo is a sage"
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Why it's worth reading: It captures Theo’s observation about self‑awareness and pain, which many commenters clearly see as unexpectedly profound.youtube
Quote: ""The best way to receive discipline is to do what you hate to do but do it like you love it", spoken from the king! You the man Mike, great job Theo!"
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Why it's worth reading: This distills Tyson’s philosophy of discipline into a practical rule people can actually apply, which is why it’s being treated like a life lesson.youtube
Section 4: Funniest / most memorable comment
“They all love you…….I don’t know who the fuck you are!!” The honesty is captivating. – summarizing and quoting Mike’s line to Theo near the end.youtube This one sticks because it’s pure Tyson: disarming, a little harsh, but ultimately affectionate and funny in context.youtube
Section 5: Lowest value comments
Summary: A short comment that only says some version of “first” or “here before 1M views” without referring to the episode at all.
Why it ranks low: Low‑effort clout chasing, adds nothing to discussion of the interview.youtube
Summary: A throwaway remark that just repeats a quote with no context, plus a single emoji as the entire “reaction.”
Why it ranks low: Repetitive and shallow; duplicates other comments that already highlight the same line with actual thoughts attached.youtube
Summary: A snarky jab implying the episode is “nothing without Rogan” or comparing this directly to Joe in a negative way.
Why it ranks low: Off‑topic and tribal; doesn’t engage with what actually happens in this conversation and drags in unrelated drama.youtube
(Harsher or potentially hateful remarks are either not prominent or not necessary to quote directly; the visible top portion is notably clean for a comment section this big.)youtube
Section 6: Recurring themes
Mike Tyson as a philosopher: people are treating his lines about God, discipline, suffering, and death like quotable wisdom to live by.youtube
Theo’s emotional intelligence: many comments praise how he handles tension, steers deep topics, and makes Mike feel safe opening up.youtube
The power of mentorship: multiple comments circle around Mike’s relationship with Cus D’Amato, especially his inability to talk about Cus without crying.youtube
Desire for a no‑audience version: a noticeable thread says the conversation would be “20x better” or wishes for a second, intimate, studio‑only interview.youtube
Concern and care for Theo’s mental health: at least one top comment references Joe Rogan talking about Theo’s struggles and urges Theo to “stay safe.”youtube
This episode as “historic”: repeated claims that this is Mike’s best interview and Theo’s best work, with people expecting it to be remembered long‑term.youtube
Section 7: Best pull quote
“You can feel everybody realizing at the same time that Mike Tyson is a philosopher now and Theo Von is the only guy who could sit in front of him, talk about God, pain, and showing up for yourself, and make it feel this honest and legendary.”youtube
If you do another pass like this, do you want the focus more on emotional/psychology reads, or on what’s most useful for you as a creator (hooks, titles, clips, etc.)?
Transcript
0:088 secondsYang gang, baby. Praise God. Good to see you guys tonight. Thank you for coming out. And um0:1515 seconds[cheering]0:1717 secondsyou know, this podcast has given me like just so many uh little moments in my life that have been so special. And um and tonight is certainly no different.0:2525 secondslike uh you know it's rare that you get get to sit across from one of the most recognizable people in uh in human0:3333 secondshistory. Um this is a man who's been the heavyweight champion of the world, okay? The entire world.0:4242 seconds[applause]0:4343 secondsHe's been everything. He's been a father. He's been a dang uh inmate. He's been a drug dealer. He's been a But I'm0:5050 secondsjust saying this is a man who has done I mean that admirationally, honestly. uh he's been a father. He's just done so0:5858 secondsmany things. Um life has put so much on his shoulders and uh and I'm curious to know what that's what it's like um to be1:061 minute, 6 secondshim, you know, and I'm grateful to get to spend time with him today. Uh I feel very fortunate to announce today's guest is Mr. Mike Tyson.1:191 minute, 19 seconds[cheering]1:211 minute, 21 seconds[applause]1:291 minute, 29 seconds[applause]1:311 minute, 31 seconds[cheering]1:341 minute, 34 seconds[applause]1:371 minute, 37 secondsWoo!1:441 minute, 44 seconds[cheering]1:551 minute, 55 secondsYou look sharp, Mike.1:581 minute, 58 secondsThank you. Thank you very much. I went to um Stefano Richie because I knew I was coming here. I wasn't going to wear a suit. I was going to be casual, but I had to be casually sharp.2:072 minutes, 7 secondsYeah. Yeah. I think you did it, man. Thank you very much. Do you Do you like dressing up or not? I love it. You do?2:142 minutes, 14 secondsI do it just for no reason. I'm in my closet trying on clothes. Yeah.2:192 minutes, 19 secondsLike a little like kind of like a little mannequin kind of or like a very tough mannequin. No, it's like a a real life stud.2:282 minutes, 28 seconds[snorts]2:282 minutes, 28 secondsYes. Tried on his clothes.2:312 minutes, 31 secondsYou like putting on stuff? Had you always been like that or was that kind of, you know? Let me tell you a story. One day um these guys um they pretty much bullied2:402 minutes, 40 secondsme to help them. That's how I fell in love with pigeons to help me build their pigeon coop. And so I started coming2:472 minutes, 47 secondsthere often. But I I was what 11 years old. I never knew about washing and changing clothes. My mother would take a2:532 minutes, 53 secondshot washing club, put soap on the towel and just wash me. I never washed myself.2:592 minutes, 59 secondsSo after being on the pigeon coop, I have tar from building the pigeon. I got [ __ ] on me. Yeah.3:043 minutes, 4 secondsSome guy some guys took me to this neighborhood dance and everybody said, "Yo, John. Hey, Winky. This your friend.3:103 minutes, 10 secondsHe got [ __ ] on me. They Everybody started laughing at me. I started laughing. I was crying. They were talking about me. And ever since that um3:193 minutes, 19 secondsI became a criminal. I only bought nice clothes.3:243 minutes, 24 secondsThere's [clears throat] there's something.3:263 minutes, 26 secondsAin't that crazy? I became a criminal buying ticket. Now every time somebody say, "Wow, you look nice." [laughter]3:353 minutes, 35 secondsYeah. You're under arrest, but you look great.3:373 minutes, 37 secondsYes. Oh, I love those pictures. Oh, those are the great ones.3:403 minutes, 40 secondsYeah. There's something more respectable about a criminal that is well-dressed, isn't there? Um, he become the rogue that we love.3:483 minutes, 48 secondsIt becomes the what is it? The rogue that we love. The rogue that we love. Rogue. R O G U E. Yes, sir. Yes.3:573 minutes, 57 secondsThank you for joining me today, Mike. I appreciate you, man. And thank you for uh just you've you shared a lot of your life with the world. Is it sometimes uh4:054 minutes, 5 secondsscary how much you've shared like when you or some of it? Let me correct you for a moment. You you had one made a mistake and called me a drug4:124 minutes, 12 secondsdealer. I don't have the discipline to be a drug dealer cuz I keep getting high in my own. I wish I had the discipline to be a drug dealer. I would be rich.4:214 minutes, 21 seconds[laughter] Like everybody wants to buy the cops. Everybody want to buy from me.4:254 minutes, 25 secondsGod damn. I I was a Oh man, I I'd have bought Coke from you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.4:344 minutes, 34 secondsYou were going to say what? I interrupted you.4:364 minutes, 36 secondsThat I enjoyed getting high. Getting high was my life.4:404 minutes, 40 secondsAlcohol, too. But both that was my life and whatnot. I love Man.4:444 minutes, 44 secondsOh, I was sober. I'm sober for 9ine years. Believe that. Sober for 9ine years. Congratulations. Sober for 9 years.4:534 minutes, 53 secondsOn the count of three, can we both say our favorite drug if you want to say it at the same time? Or is that weird? Hey man, I'm a I'm a equal opportunity.5:025 minutes, 2 secondsI Oh, I didn't have no favorite drink. You didn't have a favorite, huh? No.5:095 minutes, 9 secondsAnything that got me out of me, I like anything that got you out of you. Yeah. Yeah.5:155 minutes, 15 secondsYeah. There's something about being yourself. It just gets to be too much, doesn't it?5:185 minutes, 18 secondsToo much power, man. God gave you more than you can handle.5:215 minutes, 21 secondsDo you think that God put too much power in your hands?5:235 minutes, 23 secondsNo. No way. God broke me before he crowned me. Of course I I'm going to be able to handle it.5:325 minutes, 32 secondsHe doesn't do that. Say, "Hey, you're a cool kid. Take this." Boom. He doesn't do that.5:385 minutes, 38 secondsYou know, I've sat across from like different folks and uh but nobody I think has had like like on their own face has so many like you you have a lot of scars on you that are just built into5:475 minutes, 47 secondsyou from like wars, right? Do you ever look at your own face and you can know?5:515 minutes, 51 secondsDo you know like which ones are from which fights and stuff?5:545 minutes, 54 secondsI think, you know, listen, that's interesting that you said. I think it I think it comes from accumulation of fighting. You know, you don't wake up6:016 minutes, 1 secondovernight and you got um a line on your face. It comes after years and years of waking up and you say, "Wow, I got a line on my face." Okay. Which was it?6:096 minutes, 9 secondsWhich was the start which is started 10 years ago, but you you just haven't seen it yet. Oh, so you kind of gets worn in sort of.6:186 minutes, 18 secondsAbsolutely. Yeah. Pretty. Yeah.6:206 minutes, 20 secondsYou you have a a documentary that you're starting that's coming out this year on Netflix. Is that right?6:256 minutes, 25 secondsI believe so. I don't know when it's coming out, but I believe it's coming out soon.6:306 minutes, 30 secondsOkay. You've done a lot of documentaries. Do you feel different about this one? Like what do you feel like there's something different to6:386 minutes, 38 secondsoffer now to uh people that are going to consume it? That's interesting that you say that. I'm going give you honest answer.6:476 minutes, 47 secondsThere's things that people believe that other people want to hear from me that I've been saying constantly since the beginning of interviews. So, it's more6:556 minutes, 55 secondsthe pers more their perspective than it is my perspective. I may think it's6:596 minutes, 59 seconds[ __ ]7:007 minutesYeah. They may think it's a masterpiece. So, no, I'm serious.7:057 minutes, 5 secondsYeah. No, no perspective. You know, most of us don't like ourselves on on, you know, we don't like ourselves up there that much, you know, but you know, the people the people do, I guess, right?7:157 minutes, 15 secondsYou can't help it that you're very that everybody came to see you and you're very popular. You can't help that. Not your fault. You can't help that.7:227 minutes, 22 seconds[cheering]7:227 minutes, 22 secondsYou think it's your fault really that you like this? No, not No, I think it's interesting. Yeah, it's me, too.7:297 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, I can tell that you feel that way if you if you had a if there was a time in your life that you could go back to and had um a documentary crew uh that7:387 minutes, 38 secondsjust in your own life like in your childhood or anything that you could just have that footage, what would it be?7:437 minutes, 43 secondsWould it be when I first met my mentor customaro?7:467 minutes, 46 secondsI mean, first when I remember when I first You mean the first day?7:497 minutes, 49 secondsWhen I first No, when I first got in trouble and I was in that juvenile detention, I was doing stuff there and then I started boxing. I started changing my life. Then I met him. I7:587 minutes, 58 secondsThat's the part I wish he could come back. Yeah. I missed that.8:018 minutes, 1 secondWhat was it about it that I don't know. I had somebody I love and they loved me. How'd you know that he loved you?8:078 minutes, 7 secondsOh, [ __ ] Don't let me tell he um if Oh, if anybody say something if anybody say something.8:188 minutes, 18 secondsNo, it's okay. Look, I It's hard to know. Sometimes it's hard to know.8:238 minutes, 23 secondsNo. Um if anybody say something negative about me, he would attack the 75. He would attack.8:338 minutes, 33 secondsSo we protected you.8:368 minutes, 36 secondsYeah. Then why you have me talking about this [ __ ] Stop. Stop. What?8:428 minutes, 42 secondsStop, [ __ ] Stop. Stop. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Stop.8:488 minutes, 48 secondsShouldn't the bell shouldn't we go back to our quarters for a minute?8:538 minutes, 53 secondsUm, no. I think it's just interesting like there's times in your life where people come along and they kind of like hold you up by the neck and like, you9:029 minutes, 2 secondsknow, kind of dry your cheeks and stuff like that and uh and give you a place to be. Everyone needs a mentor in their life.9:089 minutes, 8 secondsEverybody. Even if you got a bad mentor, that's better than having no mentor.9:139 minutes, 13 secondsWhat was it like uh with C outside of the ring? What was that like? Like what was that energy? Cuz their family adopted you or No.9:209 minutes, 20 secondsYeah, they did. Yeah. Did you have your own room? Well, I had to earn that. You did? You had to earn it? I had to earn that. Yeah.9:269 minutes, 26 secondsAnd how did you earn it? Like, what was that like? You mean?9:289 minutes, 28 secondsUm, I had to do my chores. Had to, you know, build get my grades up. You know, I'm getting my C minuses. So, I'm9:359 minutes, 35 secondsgetting I'm getting D's now. I'm getting B's. I'm coming up. Teachers are writing nice letters back at home, but um I'm9:429 minutes, 42 secondsimproving all that crap. So, yeah, he loves that stuff.9:469 minutes, 46 secondsAnd was there stuff around the house that you had to do? Like what kind of trouble?9:499 minutes, 49 secondsOh, I I took I cleaned the dishes. I took out the garbage. I mopped and sweeped the floor. Yeah. I did the whole thing, man.9:569 minutes, 56 secondsLike what was the different feeling that you got there, I guess?9:589 minutes, 58 secondsWell, I felt I had the home. I had And that was a structure I had doing my tour me building my discipline up. After every train, every time um I finished10:0710 minutes, 7 secondstraining, I had to mop and sweep the gym. Sweep and mop the gym. Even I was a big shot. I'm [clears throat] be front cover of Sports Illustrated. I'm taking all the pictures. Boom. All day.10:1710 minutes, 17 secondscameras. Everybody looking at me. At the end of the day, they're brooming them up. Yeah. Through through the gym.10:2410 minutes, 24 secondsAmen.10:2710 minutes, 27 secondsWhenever uh Cuz he passed away. How How long was he in your life for?10:3110 minutes, 31 secondsUm since I was 12. So I was 19.10:3510 minutes, 35 secondsAnd when your career grew, did you guys did it put any like was it harder to be close to him? Like did you get like so kind of like busy that you that it was10:4410 minutes, 44 secondstougher to you know, let me explain something. He was like my father. He was my adopted father. Legally adopted father. I wasn't out of his sight much.10:5310 minutes, 53 secondsHe didn't let me out of his sight much.10:5510 minutes, 55 secondsHe he watched who I hung out with. He was my He was my everything. If anybody11:0011 minutessaid something negative about me, ex he was just like that.11:0811 minutes, 8 secondsAnd had you felt that before in your life, you think, or no? Never. Never. If he told me to kill somebody, I would.11:1511 minutes, 15 secondsNo, I'm telling that's how it was.11:1711 minutes, 17 secondsThat's how deep it was. He say kill that but he's dead.11:2011 minutes, 20 secondsYeah. Tight [ __ ] man. People Hey, people got to go.11:2311 minutes, 23 secondsYeah. You know, but that's I'm just keeping it real. That's real talk. That's real talk.11:2811 minutes, 28 secondsSo, the connection was that it was just that much. Yeah.11:3211 minutes, 32 secondsAfter he passed away, did you try to find like another c like custom? Nobody else like him.11:3711 minutes, 37 secondsBut was there a part of you that was looking for something like that? Not like that. No, it doesn't exist. That part was filled in.11:4411 minutes, 44 secondsYeah. He He was born only for me. He was what? He was born only for me. Oh, you feel like he was made for you.11:5111 minutes, 51 secondsOh, that's awesome.11:5411 minutes, 54 secondsAnd he probably felt that about you, I bet. Well, I hope so. I hope so.11:5811 minutes, 58 secondsHave you had the opportunity to try and be that for somebody else in your life or like do you feel like you have some of the same like like capabilities that12:0712 minutes, 7 secondshe had? It takes a special person to be that type of person and we're all special in different ways.12:1112 minutes, 11 secondsI am nowhere near the person that he was. you know, we're born from two different structures and fibers. He's just a total disciplinarian and you12:2112 minutes, 21 secondscould hard he's just he he almost wants to be perfect. He's hardly makes any mistakes around people. He won't do any12:2812 minutes, 28 secondshe's just wants to be right at every moment. You know, he puts himself in position to be right. He's just I could12:3512 minutes, 35 secondssay megalomaniac, but he was just a a disciplinarian person. Sometimes he'll go and just stop eating. He just just have stop eating for a week.12:4412 minutes, 44 secondsSometimes he what? I'm sorry. I'm just He just may start to stop. He just may stop eating for a week. Just12:5112 minutes, 51 secondsjust stop. Just stop. My wife did the same [ __ ] You got this or am I She was flagging from back there.13:0013 minutesWas he really? She was.13:0113 minutes, 1 secondOh, that's some [ __ ] I knew that, right? You see, I knew that [ __ ] I know this. Kiki, do you love me?13:1113 minutes, 11 secondsShe loves you.13:1313 minutes, 13 secondsOh [ __ ] That's what it's like. If you love somebody, you got to keep them clean, you know?13:1713 minutes, 17 secondsI hear you. Um, can you say that last part though? He was such a disciplinarian. Was he was he disciplined in his own life? Like did he like did he in He was in World War II.13:2613 minutes, 26 secondsOkay. So, he was very he almost had an institutionalized disciplinarian. Like if I'm going to a school dance and the is like what three miles away and the13:3413 minutes, 34 secondstaxi is a little late. I say cuz the taxi going to be a little late. I can't stay up for you. Run home now. Oh, I13:4113 minutes, 41 secondswent the girl to wait for the cab, but I said, "Baby, you got to wait for the G." I got my shoes. I'm running home. Did you I got to run home. Yeah.13:4813 minutes, 48 secondsAnd in dress shoes probably for the pants.13:5013 minutes, 50 secondsI got to run. I got to run home. Get home now. Run. [laughter] Click. Click. Click. Click. Click.13:5713 minutes, 57 secondsClick. Dang. Run.13:5913 minutes, 59 secondsIt's hard to keep a girl when you acting like that. Oh, I was I was too Yeah, I was extreme.14:0514 minutes, 5 secondsIt was hard to have a girl. I was too extreme with training. What was your relationship like?14:1214 minutes, 12 secondsWere was it easy for you to relate to girls when you were young? Like to date and that kind of stuff.14:1614 minutes, 16 secondsIt was Listen, um it was all about fighting.14:2114 minutes, 21 secondsIt was all about fighting.14:2314 minutes, 23 secondsOh, so you really set you you weren't even trying to date or anything as a as a youngster? Yeah, I dated kind of late in life.14:2814 minutes, 28 secondsYeah, cuz I'm I was I fell in love with fighting.14:3214 minutes, 32 secondsI I talked to a girl talking about fighting. She talking about what?14:3914 minutes, 39 secondsYeah. They don't want to see you shadow boxing. Yeah, cuz they want a hug. I mean, they like the part when the ref tries to separate.14:4614 minutes, 46 secondsNo, no, they don't mind seeing me shadow boxing, but they wanted to talk deep. I want to talk about fighting.14:5114 minutes, 51 secondsYou loved it that much when you What made I loved it. I loved it.14:5514 minutes, 55 secondsWhy Why was it such a magnet for you, do you think? fighting.14:5814 minutes, 58 secondsI think because when I was young and I watched some of the big time fight, I think it was just the way the crowd rooted for people's name. I wanted them to root my name one day.15:0815 minutes, 8 secondsYeah.15:0815 minutes, 8 secondsThat's cool, huh? Did you feel like Yeah. Why did you like Cuz it's interesting. Some people had this feeling they need they want somebody to15:1615 minutes, 16 secondssee them, right? Or or they want to have they want to have a say in the world.15:2115 minutes, 21 secondsLike did you feel like you like were missing part of that? Like were you not being seen or do you No, I just when the custom model told me I'm the greatest fighter the spirit of life.15:3115 minutes, 31 secondsSo that was I was 12. He told me that at 12 and you believed him. Yes. Cuz you trusted him. Yes.15:3715 minutes, 37 secondsWow. That's pretty powerful that it would just be that you'd be able to envelop that that much.15:4315 minutes, 43 secondsNo. Um, how can you pick a kid 12 years old, tell him you're the greatest fighter in the world, and you looking at him like he's some old pervert guy15:5215 minutes, 52 secondstrying to do something, you know, trying, you know, I'm really me? I'm a I'm a thief. I'm a crook. How am I some [ __ ] world's greatest fighter of all16:0116 minutes, 1 secondtime? I thought this is some kind of trick the youth the the youth center was trying to pull on me.16:0516 minutes, 5 secondsOh, yeah. Yeah, those youth centers. So, um, this guy turned out to be the real deal and I turned out to be Mike. I am like, whatever the [ __ ] people think I am.16:1416 minutes, 14 secondsYeah. So, he was the real deal.16:1616 minutes, 16 secondsDo you think if you hadn't had like cuz you know, I've heard you talk about being scared as a kid and having like um, you know, your mother passed away16:2416 minutes, 24 secondswhen you were young and um, and we don't have to talk about some of that. I'm just saying things that you can talk about anything. Okay.16:3016 minutes, 30 secondsI those are just some things that I know about you, right? I don't know you, but those are things that I know about you.16:3516 minutes, 35 secondsUm, you may think you know, Bobby, you'll figure them out now. Okay, let's go. Oh, ding, ding, ding.16:4116 minutes, 41 secondsAll right. All right. All right. Thank you, Mike. Thank you for spending time with us. Um, and with me. Thank you. I didn't think I was going to like you.16:5016 minutes, 50 secondsYou good brother. Really? Thanks, bro. I appreciate that.16:5616 minutes, 56 secondsMy wife told me, "Don't judge him. Don't judge him." I was feeling said, "Don't judge him. Don't judge him." She's got a very uh you could tell she's a very she has a she has a good soul. Your wife.17:0617 minutes, 6 secondsYes, she did. She believed in you. [laughter] Yes, she does.17:1017 minutes, 10 secondsDo you think that you if you'd have been if you'd have had the things you needed as a child, right? Like the things that every child needs, right? Like the I don't want that. Stay away from me.17:2017 minutes, 20 secondsKeep that [ __ ] away from me. I like I like to suffer. You like the way it went?17:2517 minutes, 25 secondsI love the suffer. I don't want no good time. Right.17:2917 minutes, 29 secondsOh, you like the discomfort. Oh yes, I like being I like being out of me, you know, getting out of my comfort zone.17:3617 minutes, 36 secondsBut if you'd have had those like if you had the stereotypical things that people I would be a [ __ ] Would you have been the heavyweight champion of the world?17:4617 minutes, 46 secondsNo. Wow. The heavyweight [ __ ] of the world.17:4917 minutes, 49 seconds[laughter]17:5117 minutes, 51 secondsI know. I'd be wearing slippers during the day probably.17:5417 minutes, 54 secondsI'd be wearing dang slippers during the day.17:5717 minutes, 57 secondsYeah. My mother would My mother would baby me, wouldn't allow me to fight and all that stuff. No, it wasn't meant for me to have my mother.18:0418 minutes, 4 secondsDid she baby you as a kid? Like, what was she like?18:0618 minutes, 6 secondsUm, she was a drunk. She was a prostitute. But, um, she was who she was.18:1318 minutes, 13 secondsYou know, my mom uh my [snorts] mom had like a issue when I was a kid, like she couldn't look at me because18:2018 minutes, 20 secondsWhy? What's wrong with you? [laughter] I do. You know something that we don't know?18:2718 minutes, 27 secondsI don't know [ __ ] but something was wrong with her. She like she just couldn't like something18:3518 minutes, 35 secondslike when my mom was growing up like her dad like um would make him would make them like put his food under their ta under the door. He he he would not talk18:4418 minutes, 44 secondsto my mom for like for months at a time and he would go in and out of their house through the window. That sounds like a mental illness.18:4918 minutes, 49 secondsYeah. Right. A mental illness for what they call now a mental illness.18:5318 minutes, 53 secondsRight. Right. At the time. Yeah. It was just like kind of a reverse drive-thru. Yeah.18:5918 minutes, 59 secondsI got what I'm doing with your dad. I swear.19:0219 minutes, 2 secondsBut anyway, I'm just saying like there was just like so early on I realized I got to take care of myself, right? Like and I don't know if that was the truth,19:1019 minutes, 10 secondsbut inside of myself, I made that decision. Like I I probably was a kid for maybe 45 seconds and since then I was an adult. I don't care if I was two19:1719 minutes, 17 secondsmonths old. Does that make any sense to you?19:1919 minutes, 19 secondsExactly. You know, my my my wife is kind of shamanic and she believes that we ask for our parents.19:2919 minutes, 29 secondsThen when I start believing, I said, "If I didn't have the parents I had, I would never be me." I said, "She might got something." I never tell her. I'm saying19:3619 minutes, 36 secondsit now. I said, "She may have something there." I did pick those parents. If I didn't have those parents, I would be [ __ ] up. She might be right.19:4419 minutes, 44 secondsWhat's what's a nice memory that you have with your mom that was like something that you think about that was like kind of like a moment that you kind of cherish?19:5419 minutes, 54 secondsIt was one Christmas day and her birthday was on Christmas. Your mother's birthday was on Christmas.20:0120 minutes, 1 secondI don't know how we got some money but it was just a festival. her and her friends, they had food there and we was20:0920 minutes, 9 secondseating food and we have never had that much food before and I don't know how they got the money. I know it was something scaldish but I'm sure um20:1820 minutes, 18 secondsskull dugger a little bit of skull duggery.20:2020 minutes, 20 secondsYeah. So I'm sure um something that broke the law but it was just a great moment you know and20:2820 minutes, 28 secondsthat's what I was accustomed to. I was accustomed to the pimps, the criminals, the stickup guys, the robbers, all being over my mother's house and stuff cuz20:3520 minutes, 35 secondsthat we were a house of crime. I lived in a house of crime.20:3920 minutes, 39 secondsWhere did you sleep? Did you have your own room?20:4120 minutes, 41 secondsNo, my home room. I live slept on the floor in a blanket somewhere.20:4720 minutes, 47 secondsThe the beds are for the for the um for the John's.20:5020 minutes, 50 secondsFor the John's. Yeah, exactly. I think for the tricks, but yeah, the John the bed belongs. We got a bell. Are you for20:5820 minutes, 58 secondsreal? I don't know if my brother or sisters heard me and they bring back memories to them of a bad trip.21:0521 minutes, 5 secondsYou slept on each other's backs. One person had to lay down flat and the other person got to sleep and we didn't do that. We had slept on different parts on the floor. But you21:1321 minutes, 13 secondsknow, you had to the if it's hot, you had to air condition. You turn the big fan.21:2021 minutes, 20 secondsOh, dude. I remember our my mom would only let it be 80° in the house, right?21:2421 minutes, 24 secondsAnd I'm like, well, that and at the time when I was a kid, I didn't know that that's pretty warm, right? And so we would go get the cold water and we21:3221 minutes, 32 secondswould just put it all over the sheet and then we would lay on it like, "Hey, make a little beach. Go to Florida."21:4021 minutes, 40 seconds[laughter]21:4721 minutes, 47 secondsUh, but it was fun.21:4921 minutes, 49 secondsListen, right, poverty is just so beautiful sometimes. If you can laugh at it, it's hilarious. Oh, it is. We have some fun.21:5721 minutes, 57 secondsNothing more funny than poverty.21:5921 minutes, 59 secondsOh, dude. We It doesn't m It doesn't care how rich or famous you get, it still affects you.22:0522 minutes, 5 seconds[laughter]22:0522 minutes, 5 secondsI don't care how big you get. Remember this? It comes out. Do you remember this?22:1122 minutes, 11 seconds[laughter] Remember this, bro? I'll tell you something. This a little racial, but let's do it because go for it. We used to live like people22:2022 minutes, 20 secondswould burn their trash in the ditch, right? And so me and my buddy William, we would get out there and my buddy Larry and we would get all wet and we would run and jump through the smoke in22:2922 minutes, 29 secondsthe ditch until we were pretty darkerish, right?22:3322 minutes, 33 secondsAnd then, bro, we would kind of wait until somebody drove by and yelled the n word at the end. [laughter]22:4422 minutes, 44 secondsN word. I hat say [ __ ] Huh? Say [ __ ] You don't say n word for [ __ ] Say22:5222 minutes, 52 seconds[ __ ] The only the only people Joe by call us [ __ ]22:5522 minutes, 55 secondsWait, hold on.22:5622 minutes, 56 secondsSay, man, do you need me to say if you need I'm just I don't want to do something. I can't tell what's going on here to be honest with you.23:0723 minutes, 7 secondsI mean, I'll jump through some I just need to say one thing and I'd be ashamed. All right. Yeah. Say I'm a [ __ ] lover.23:1623 minutes, 16 secondsYou need me to say it?23:1723 minutes, 17 secondsYeah. I say I'm a [ __ ] lover. Go ahead, man. But does it mean all of them? kind of a little bit.23:2523 minutes, 25 secondsGod, even a rotten one. [laughter] I don't know. I don't know if people think I should do it or not.23:3323 minutes, 33 secondsDo it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Please. Please. Please.23:4123 minutes, 41 secondsPlease. Come on, man. Stop [ __ ] the show up, man. You [ __ ] the show up, man. You right, bro. Dang, dude.23:4823 minutes, 48 secondsHoly [ __ ] [ __ ] I just what can I say, bro? I'm a lover, brother.23:5623 minutes, 56 secondsGod is great, brother. God is great. God is great. [cheering] Now, hold on a second.24:0224 minutes, 2 secondsNo. Who Who is cheering for this? I love this show.24:1124 minutes, 11 secondsI love this [ __ ] show.24:1324 minutes, 13 seconds[ __ ] Are we going to jail or not? Are we okay?24:1724 minutes, 17 secondsAnother [laughter] knockout for Mike. Here comes the podcast.24:2724 minutes, 27 secondsIt's cuz he's got a new podcast. He's trying to get me off the charts. That's why people are going to be crying and he's scared to say [ __ ] love.24:3824 minutes, 38 secondsI don't know if if those [laughter] are the same thing, but Oh.24:4724 minutes, 47 secondsDamn, that [ __ ] Look, that [ __ ] pussy's a [ __ ] I'm sorry. Forgive me, guys. Hold on. I'm sorry.24:5524 minutes, 55 secondsI mean, I don't know. 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On May 15th, Beth and Rip27:2727 minutes, 27 secondsare back in a new series, Dutton Ranch, streaming on Paramount Plus. Kelly Riley27:3427 minutes, 34 secondsand Cole Howser return, and this time they're taking on Texas. As Beth and Rip27:4127 minutes, 41 secondsbegin to build a future together, peace will have to wait as they face corruption, danger, and a ruthless rival27:4927 minutes, 49 secondsranch willing to protect its secrets at all costs.27:5427 minutes, 54 secondsAnd Texas is about to learn what happens when you pick the wrong fight. Legacy is a beautiful thing, but only if it28:0328 minutes, 3 secondssurvives. Dutton Ranch, starring Colehauser, Kelly Riley, Annette Benning, and Ed Harris. Streaming May 15th on Paramount Plus.28:1628 minutes, 16 secondsLet's keep it on. Moving on up. Okay, moving on up.28:2128 minutes, 21 secondsRemember that, dude? Remember when Good Times was popping, bro?28:2428 minutes, 24 secondsIt was really Good Times, dude. I'll tell you a story. So, I'm in the airport one time, right? Jimmy Walker, uh, the actor from Good Times,28:3128 minutes, 31 secondsright? One of the a great comedian. He's walking in the airport. Somebody starts yelling dynamite at him. The police thought it was like a uh Yeah. They didn't see him.28:4328 minutes, 43 secondsOh, they just see a couple uh a couple little [ __ ] yelling dynamite and they just jumped on them, bro. And I laughed.28:4928 minutes, 49 secondsI didn't I could have helped and told people what's going on, but I had to I was in a hurry, you know. I had to get to Cincinnati.28:5728 minutes, 57 secondsYeah. Good cause.28:5828 minutes, 58 secondsThat was a good show. Do Janet Jackson was on there. Yes.29:0229 minutes, 2 secondsDid you ever get to meet Janet? Yes, I have. I did have a chance to meet Janice Smith.29:0629 minutes, 6 secondsAnd you someone said, this is a rumor that I heard that you and Michael Jackson closed down SeaWorld one night and had a party there. Is that true?29:1329 minutes, 13 secondsThis is not true at all. It's not true. Don King told me that. He's a liar.29:2229 minutes, 22 secondsI'm joking. He didn't tell me that. But but if we knew if he did, he'd have lied about it. He tells the truth by accident.29:2929 minutes, 29 secondsYeah. [laughter] I just thought you he tells the truth by accident. Hey man. Yeah, it is what it is, dude.29:3829 minutes, 38 secondsBut no, did you actually get to spend time with Michael Jackson? Cuz he's such a What was he like as a person?29:4329 minutes, 43 secondsA splendid, beautiful person. Hid behind all that stuff. He was a beautiful, calm, humble person. And I didn't like him for a long time cuz my friend had29:5229 minutes, 52 secondsthat called me. He said, "Hey, Mike, I'm" cuz he's one of Mike's producers.29:5629 minutes, 56 secondsHe said, "Hey man, I'm over Mike's." And once he said, "Fuck that dude. He disrespected me. He did this." No, I meant [ __ ] that man. Jackson said all that.30:0430 minutes, 4 secondsI said that. Okay.30:0530 minutes, 5 secondsAnd then they said, "And then my friend went like this." He said, "Really? He asked for me to call you." I said, "I'll30:1230 minutes, 12 secondsbe right there." Boom. I was right over the house.30:1730 minutes, 17 secondsWhat was he like? Was he just like a He was very shy. He very humble. He was at the end of his, you know, he was dealing with that bad stuff, that child30:2630 minutes, 26 secondsstuff. He was dealing with that. He was really had no only was four people at the house, no friends, whole kind and it was just him and I got to know him.30:3430 minutes, 34 secondsAsk about Tupac.30:3630 minutes, 36 secondsBut I'm I'm doing fine. Um30:4130 minutes, 41 seconds[laughter]30:4130 minutes, 41 secondsI love you, man. You're beautiful. I thought you going to be some mullet redneck. You're beautiful, girl. You're beautiful.30:4830 minutes, 48 secondsI'm doing all right. I just I feel lucky to be here with you today, man. Beautiful.30:5130 minutes, 51 secondsUm do you think Michael was did he do you think he was involved in that kind of stuff when you got to know him? Did you ever feel that about him or No, I had a different opinion about him once I got to know him. Got it.30:5930 minutes, 59 secondsYeah, totally different opinion.31:0031 minutesDude, I read somewhere actually I didn't read it. I I'm lying to you. One of my friends told me that like he has some girls whatever and you was like31:0731 minutes, 7 secondsinquiring these these your girlfriends and he said get your own [ __ ] too. Oh, he did. No, I'm not. I'm saying that. I tell you what happened. Please do.31:1531 minutes, 15 secondsI went to a Michael Jackson concert with dog. He had said come come to Cleveland and meet my babies and go see Michael.31:2231 minutes, 22 secondsSo he called me. I want to see. So we walk into the show. It's the last song.31:2631 minutes, 26 secondsWe walk into the arena. We walk down the middle of the aisle. He goes like this to Don King. Don King puts his hand up.31:3331 minutes, 33 secondsI go like this and he puts his hand down. And I say to myself, I know Mike didn't this. I said, "No, he don't know.31:3931 minutes, 39 secondsHe just He's the big performer. He can't be thinking about me. Of course not me." So I go in the back and I'm in the back. This whole staff is just loving me.31:4731 minutes, 47 secondsLoving the band guy gave me his sticks.31:5031 minutes, 50 secondsEverybody's all over me. Mike's at the corner chilling like this with the door open. I guess he's waiting for a car.31:5531 minutes, 55 secondsHe's going to jump in the car. And everybody's all me. I say I think let me go over there and say hi to Mike, you know, because I want to go see. It was a good night. I go over there and before I32:0332 minutes, 3 secondssay anything, he goes, "Where did I know you from? This is the biggest moment in my life. I just beat Mike to speak. The whole world's talking about nothing but32:1232 minutes, 12 secondsme." And he looks at me, "Where did I know you from? I you look familiar.32:1632 minutes, 16 secondsWhere did I know you from?" I said, "No way, Mr. Jackson. It's just a fan." I said, "You motherfucker." [laughter] I said, "That was a good one." You [ __ ] I hate him ever since.32:2732 minutes, 27 secondsI hated him everything. If my friend had called me to come over the house and said, "Mike called you," I would have never I would been hating him now. Wow.32:3532 minutes, 35 secondsI can't believe he said that. I was just a little kid. He said that to me.32:3932 minutes, 39 secondsYou think he was joking? And Oh, he was dead serious. Wow. He was dead serious.32:4332 minutes, 43 secondsYou think he was very competitive? He was.32:4532 minutes, 45 secondsFrank is too competitive. He's not friendly with nobody. Yeah.32:4932 minutes, 49 secondsEspecially not in the a music business if you don't bend the knee. You got to bend the knee for Mike.32:5332 minutes, 53 secondsWell, yeah. He didn't even He wasn't friendly even with black folks. He freaking ended up white.32:5932 minutes, 59 secondsYou got to be on You know what I'm saying? You got to have an issue if you want.33:0133 minutes, 1 secondHey, but listen, everybody's going that route now. I've seen a bunch of athletes and singers go that route. Yeah. The black turn white route.33:0933 minutes, 9 secondsYep. That's Hey, Red Rover. Red Rover. Come on. You know, send them over, bro. Passing is passing.33:1733 minutes, 17 secondsYeah. Yeah. Yeah.33:1933 minutes, 19 secondsWhat if like and some of this is just like lore stuff. What about Whitney Houston? Did you ever get to meet her? I knew Whitney very well. No way.33:2733 minutes, 27 secondsYeah, I knew very well. Was she so?33:2933 minutes, 29 secondsShe came to visit me in prison. When I was in prison, she came to visit me. She did? Yeah. One of my good friends.33:3533 minutes, 35 secondsAnd when was that? When you were in prison in New York?33:3733 minutes, 37 secondsNo, [ __ ] I'm up in Indianapolis. It's cold.33:4033 minutes, 40 secondsI was just checking to see if you remember where you were in prison at.33:4433 minutes, 44 secondsYeah, I have a lot of listen um I I I had a lot of um really interesting visitors, a lot of really interesting people.33:5233 minutes, 52 secondsWhitney came to visit you. Did she sing for you or anything like that or did she just come and spend time?33:5533 minutes, 55 secondsShe just came and she brought her family. Her and her family came and they hung out with me. Who else came to visit you?34:0234 minutes, 2 secondsI don't know. Quite a few people. You name some names or something. What about Michael Landon?34:0834 minutes, 8 secondsHe was dead, man. God was dead. He was dead then. He had cancer back then.34:1234 minutes, 12 secondsListen, Patrick sees, he was dead, too, I think.34:1734 minutes, 17 secondsWhat? Why? All the white people die in your stories. I'm starting to notice, smile. Hey, um, Florence Henderson came. No way.34:2534 minutes, 25 secondsHe came. Yes. But listen to this. She came to visit me, but I'm locked in the hole. I had to fight with one of the gods. So, I'm not going to come out. If34:3234 minutes, 32 secondsyou come out the hole, you got to come out chain. So, I said, I'm not going to come out like that. I ask her to forgive me. I didn't want to do that.34:3934 minutes, 39 secondsCuz you would It would have just You didn't want her to see you like I didn't want to see me in shackles and my feet and all that crap. It looks crazy.34:4534 minutes, 45 secondsYeah. Well, when they put you into the whole So, I know it was like 23 hours of darkness, right? And then 1 hour of light or vice versa the other way.34:5434 minutes, 54 secondsNo, they leave the light on all night. Oh, the lights on all night. Lights on.34:5734 minutes, 57 secondsOh, that's good. I mean, at least in case you have to get up or whatever, you It gives you a [ __ ] headache. Oh, yeah. 24 hours a day for like what, 10 weeks?35:0535 minutes, 5 secondsNuh-uh. Yeah. [clears throat] What starts to happen to somebody in there? Like do does it is it anything helpful?35:1235 minutes, 12 secondsYeah, the peace the solitude is healthy.35:1635 minutes, 16 secondsVery healthy. The solitude and most of us most of us believe it or not able to be by oursel for a long period35:2335 minutes, 23 secondsof time. You know we haven't developed a relationship with ourselves where we adore ourselves. We can't stop up being up and stop being in our own presence.35:3435 minutes, 34 secondsAnd I guess that's the way to be.35:3535 minutes, 35 secondsConstant happiness and love even though even though we go through the bad [ __ ] makes that beautiful too.35:4235 minutes, 42 secondsYeah. I think um I don't know in my life like I feel like in my life my whole life I was waiting35:4935 minutes, 49 secondsfor somebody to show up, right? I don't even really exactly know who it was. But then like recently I'm realizing that I think I'm just waiting for me to show35:5735 minutes, 57 secondsup. Does that make any sense to you? I I don't want to ask this question because you have to get you know I mean that's your narrative. How do that guy appears?36:0836 minutes, 8 secondsHow do you make that guy appear? Right.36:1036 minutes, 10 secondsThe first thing that I'm that I'm learning for myself and some of this is pretty recent is just like having some integrity like you know if I say I'm like cuz if I say I'm going to do36:1836 minutes, 18 secondssomething and I don't I hear myself do that, right? And so after a while I don't even believe myself. I think after a while I couldn't even listen to myself cuz it's like well how many times am I36:2736 minutes, 27 secondsgoing to lead myself on, you know? Um, I don't know if that's exactly true, but I think that's the best answer I have for that.36:3336 minutes, 33 secondsIt's always the higher power. It's always the higher power cuz I'm from the I'm from the um the world um that you36:4136 minutes, 41 secondscome from as well, you know, the recovery world. And it's a battle. It's a battle. Some guys for 20 years all a sudden, boom, they took they go to drugs36:4936 minutes, 49 secondsand kill themselves. It's a constant battle. No one's ever a winner to the end of the day till it's over and we're36:5636 minutes, 56 secondsdead. Then you won. If you ever do any drugs and you beat the system that was killing you, you going to die. Boom. But sometimes these guys stop using drugs for 30 years and go back.37:0537 minutes, 5 secondsYeah.37:0637 minutes, 6 secondsYou know, I mean, you just can't believe it. So, you're never safe. Yeah. You're never safe.37:1137 minutes, 11 secondsYeah. Nobody's going to get out of here alive. I learned that in rehab.37:1437 minutes, 14 secondsYeah. It kind of makes it exciting, doesn't it?37:1737 minutes, 17 secondsIt's kind of funny. Nobody gets out of here alive.37:1937 minutes, 19 secondsAs you get older, one of the things that gets a little bit exciting is dying because it's a new adventure. I listen. Does that make sense?37:2737 minutes, 27 secondsThat makes too much sense. I find um death is another part of life we just never experienced yet.37:3437 minutes, 34 secondsYou know, if life is good, how death could be bad? Be honest. If God loved us, how could death really be bad? If we look at God the way we believe him to37:4237 minutes, 42 secondsbe, how could death be bad if he created it?37:4537 minutes, 45 secondsIf we didn't think it was final, then we How would we behave in this time that we're here, you know?37:4937 minutes, 49 secondsWell, listen. Um God prepares us. The universe prepares us for death. You know, little by little, we lose our friends. We lose people we care about.38:0038 minutesWe lose our hair. We lose our teeth. We lose our life. It's nothing that happens spontaneous. You know, it's meant to be.38:0738 minutes, 7 secondsYeah. We lose our ability to be around black people safely because I've said the N word. Yeah.38:1238 minutes, 12 secondsNo, you know, I mean, black people love you. You're you're a [ __ ] lover. You're not a [ __ ] hater. [laughter] Hey, that's a good point, bro. Thanks for looking out for me.38:2138 minutes, 21 secondsI hope that I hope they're not able to cancel you on this show and [ __ ] We talked about [ __ ] Hey, [ __ ] always got people cancel.38:2838 minutes, 28 seconds[laughter]38:2938 minutes, 29 secondsOh, it never fails. A [ __ ] will get you. The word [ __ ] The word.38:3538 minutes, 35 secondsOh, it's great to see some equality at last.38:3938 minutes, 39 secondsAre you sometimes amazed like when you look at your life how much grace God has had in your life?38:4438 minutes, 44 secondsI realized that um if you don't believe in God, look at me cuz I should not be right here talking to you.38:5438 minutes, 54 secondsNo, you probably did not, man. Listen, listen. No, really. When I'm in my 30s, I got um I said, "Yes, God did a really39:0239 minutes, 2 secondsdirty trick. He He allowed me to live to be 60." God damn. If I knew I was going to be 60, I'd have played the game. Yes,39:0939 minutes, 9 secondssir. No, ma'am. Yes, sir. [laughter] Let [ __ ] you. Suck my [ __ ] you. I went that route instead.39:1739 minutes, 17 seconds[clears throat]39:1739 minutes, 17 secondsOh man. Yes, sir. How you doing, man?39:2239 minutes, 22 secondsYou know. Oh, I'd walk right up to heaven like this, bro. I'd walk right into heaven, man. Sit at my table. Yeah.39:2839 minutes, 28 secondsIf I'd have been Yeah. I think there's something about like when you feel like you're doing everything yourself. Like, did you feel like that as a kid? Like everything I I'll figure this out. I'll39:3639 minutes, 36 secondshandle it. Like, did you have that like chip on your shoulder? Do you feel my mentor? But when I had my mentor, he taught me not to ever say anything negative about myself. Really?39:4439 minutes, 44 secondsOnly say beautiful things about myself. Custom taught you that? Yes. And what did he tell you exactly?39:5039 minutes, 50 secondsAlways say beautiful things about myself and never say anything negative about myself cuz my subconscious don't know if I'm playing or not.39:5939 minutes, 59 secondsIt's pretty Isn't it wild how there's something? No, but I learned that at 12 years old.40:0340 minutes, 3 secondsI had to learn that at 12 to be the champion at 20. M you know if I land to that 15 16 hey it40:1140 minutes, 11 secondsprobably wouldn't have worked out there that up in chapter 22 probably. Yeah.40:1540 minutes, 15 secondsSo everything worked out for the right reason.40:1840 minutes, 18 secondsWhat was one of the hardest walks uh to the ring you ever had to make.40:2540 minutes, 25 secondsAll the walks are the same pretty much. You know it becomes a routine.40:3340 minutes, 33 secondswas the one that like you didn't want it or it things had changed or you were a like I don't I don't know. I never been a fighter.40:4040 minutes, 40 secondsI always I always wanted it because um every time I got in the ring when I lost my life changed and a good perspective for my family,40:4840 minutes, 48 secondsright? You you were providing for your family for sure. Yeah, that's all I know how to do.40:5240 minutes, 52 secondsWhen did you um when did you become an adult?40:5640 minutes, 56 secondsExcuse me. Well, that happened late in life. That happened real late in life, man. I can't even tell you, man. I was probably who what 45 or something.41:0641 minutes, 6 seconds[laughter]41:0741 minutes, 7 secondsOh, dude. I freaking went to bed while I was 27. That's That's mental illness.41:1541 minutes, 15 secondsMental illness. Mental illness. Yeah. Yeah, it is.41:2141 minutes, 21 secondsBut they don't say that. They just call you Mr. Drippy Drop or whatever.41:2441 minutes, 24 secondsThey don't call you Mr. Piffy. Pissy cool.41:2941 minutes, 29 secondsNow they call you they call you little yellow boy.41:3441 minutes, 34 secondsHey yellow boy. Um but yeah but did what what do you think made you start to turn like finally like41:4241 minutes, 42 secondsI I have to I got to grow up or something something happened. I'm I'm becoming um cuz some guys took my pigeons and41:4841 minutes, 48 secondsbullied me and that was the first time I fought back and it was like love that first fight. I never stopped fighting ever since. Some guy they he took it and he p ripped my bird's head off.42:0042 minutesWhat?42:0042 minutesYeah. He was a dirty rotting kind of guy back there. You remember him? Yeah. Who was he? Gary Flowers. [ __ ] him.42:0842 minutes, 8 secondsNever forget his name. How could he do it?42:1142 minutes, 11 secondsYeah. He's a young kid back there rocking being a bully. I was a little fat kid that bullied me all the time.42:1742 minutes, 17 secondsYeah. But even if I saw a kid that was kind of like had some glandular issues or whatever, I'm not gonna break a bird's neck. And that it's just um that's all about humiliating people.42:2742 minutes, 27 secondsOh, it was like a humiliation thing, right? I'm going to make you feel this way. Oh, did you ever get him back?42:3342 minutes, 33 secondsOh, I beat the dog [ __ ] out of the [cheering] And that's the best thing happened cuz42:4042 minutes, 40 secondsevery day I f I must fought three times a day. I couldn't stop fighting. I loved it so much.42:4542 minutes, 45 secondsAnd were you having trouble finding people to fight?42:4742 minutes, 47 secondsOh, no. They used to bring people for me to fight for money. Oh, really?42:5042 minutes, 50 secondsYeah. And uh and so who would get the money?42:5442 minutes, 54 secondsThe guy would say, "Listen, if you win, you get this much. If you lose, you'll get this much." So no matter what, you ate some money. Give me some money.43:0243 minutes, 2 secondsWhat's the first thing you kind of bought when you got a little money? I don't know. Some weed and some candy. Weed and candy, bro.43:1043 minutes, 10 secondsThat's what I'm talking about, bro. The munchies. Ready for the munchies?43:1443 minutes, 14 secondsThat now ladies now ladies, dude. Yeah, but they make your teeth stick together. I know, but it's good when you're high. Yeah, you right.43:2143 minutes, 21 secondsYou high. You don't mind. You know you had And your teeth is out within the gum. You ever do that before? Teeth is out in the teeth. Oh, the shape of your teeth.43:3043 minutes, 30 secondsYeah, that [ __ ] was cool, bro.43:3343 minutes, 33 secondsI like that [ __ ] man. I really like that, man.43:3643 minutes, 36 secondsYou ever had some black [ __ ]43:4543 minutes, 45 seconds[cheering]43:4743 minutes, 47 secondsAll right. I don't I'm just I'm just asking guys between me and them. Please don't respond.43:5543 minutes, 55 secondsI mean, I've had Yeah. I mean, during the holidays, one time I have a I had a little That's true.44:0144 minutes, 1 secondI'm not talking about no Jewish girl with a great tan. I mean, a black girl.44:0444 minutes, 4 seconds[laughter]44:0644 minutes, 6 secondsOh, I'm talking about some real Yeah. Some of that freaking Yeah.44:1244 minutes, 12 secondsI'm just saying like I'm just trying to think. I Yes, I had some. I had I've had a little I've had a little I have had Mike.44:2044 minutes, 20 secondsI have actually painting that you put halfway in.44:2344 minutes, 23 seconds[laughter]44:2444 minutes, 24 secondsYou put it all the way in. What is that little? You put it in a little or you put it in a lot or is a little when you put it in?44:3244 minutes, 32 secondsIt doesn't go in a lot. Oh, like like the hokeyp pokey. Okay.44:3944 minutes, 39 secondsYou go in, she comes out. [laughter] But I've had a little, man. I've had a little. Huh? Yeah, I would I would I44:4644 minutes, 46 secondswould get some more. I would um Yeah, I'd get some more sometime, you know.44:5144 minutes, 51 secondsWhat kind of black women you dream about [ __ ] though? What's the body shape? Name somebody's body shape.44:5644 minutes, 56 secondsWell, some black women you [ __ ] them and they they [ __ ] back kind of, you know, they got that that vagina kind of it it'll [ __ ] you back, you know? It's45:0445 minutes, 4 secondsalmost like when you the last 100 years ago that I [ __ ] the wanker, she did that too. the same thing.45:1345 minutes, 13 secondsBut I almost try to um I was flirting with this black lady that worked at the airport for a while, but they said move along eventually.45:1945 minutes, 19 secondsDid you get tickets? Do you get fl You get free flights.45:2245 minutes, 22 secondsI did not get free flights, but I ain't mess with it then. I ain't going to have I'm not going to date no girl at the airport. I'm not getting free flights, man.45:2945 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, you're right. [laughter] You're right. I I I don't know. I Look, man, maybe you'll set me up with a good gal that you know.45:3445 minutes, 34 secondsI don't know any good girls. I got I got a good time. I know. Being a good girl, I give you a good time.45:4145 minutes, 41 secondsDid you ever have like a Cuz Hollywood people be people steal people's spouse or girlfriends, boyfriends. Did you ever have somebody steal a girlfriend of yours here?45:4945 minutes, 49 secondsI'm sure they did, but I just don't know about it. You didn't? Yeah.45:5345 minutes, 53 secondsI feel bad actually cuz I was saying that question, but I knew another question I was going to ask. Ask that.45:5845 minutes, 58 secondsSomebody said that Brad Pitt stole a girlfriend of yours one time. No. Oh, that's an interesting story.46:0246 minutes, 2 secondsYeah. All right. Um, no. It didn't steal up for me. But way and my wife was going through a divorce. We might get back, but we were still [ __ ] right?46:1346 minutes, 13 secondsOkay.46:1446 minutes, 14 secondsWe always [ __ ] every night. We were still [ __ ] then we fighting in the paper. Then we [ __ ] like But one day46:2146 minutes, 21 secondsI went over house the [ __ ] She wasn't home. Nobody. And then driving up the road with the BMW that I bought her and46:2846 minutes, 28 secondsshe had some I thought it was some one of her friends from head of the class, but it wasn't one of her friends. It was some [ __ ] Brad Pit trying to get some46:3746 minutes, 37 secondshead. That's Yeah. So, uh, that honky was with her.46:4146 minutes, 41 secondsYeah. [laughter] White [ __ ] Damn.46:4746 minutes, 47 seconds[laughter]46:4746 minutes, 47 secondsDamn. Brad, that honky was trying to slide. Huh?46:5146 minutes, 51 secondsThe dirty dog. [laughter] I love you.46:5646 minutes, 56 secondsThe fact that we got to call Brad Pit a honky is [ __ ] hilarious.47:0147 minutes, 1 secondHe's a beautiful brother. But you caught him in the driveway.47:0447 minutes, 4 secondsYeah, he was be I was just I I think that um Do you punk him a little?47:0847 minutes, 8 secondsNo, I guess I Yeah, he is Brad Pitt. At least if your if your if your girl's going to be with somebody, it's got If it's Brad Pit, that's you. That's okay.47:1747 minutes, 17 secondsI I Yeah, I guess you're right. I was But he wasn't Brad Pit yet. Oh, he wasn't Brad Pitt yet. I didn't know who the [ __ ] he was.47:2547 minutes, 25 secondsHe was just Brad. Yeah.47:2847 minutes, 28 secondsAnd she was driving him. He didn't have a car. Oh.47:3247 minutes, 32 secondsThat's some Brad [ __ ] Brad never got a car, bro. Name seven Brads that have cars, bro. None of them bastards. Yeah.47:4447 minutes, 44 secondsOh.47:4647 minutes, 46 secondsHave you been good at being in love, you think, over your life?47:4947 minutes, 49 secondsI've gotten so much trouble being in love in my life. You know, love is um love is so many entities. You know what I mean?47:5747 minutes, 57 secondsLove has been You gotten in so much trouble? No, I don't have trouble with love. I have trouble with me. Love has nothing to do with it.48:0548 minutes, 5 secondsLove has trouble with you.48:0748 minutes, 7 secondsNo, it's me with the trouble. I have no love has no beef with me. Love's supposed to do what it does. I supposed to do what I do, you know? And that's what we do.48:2248 minutes, 22 secondsYou think you're hard to love or not? Huh?48:2548 minutes, 25 secondsYou think you're hard to love? Um, I think that I'm acquired taste.48:3148 minutes, 31 secondsYeah, I'm I'm I'm humbled enough to know that I could be replaced, but I'm confident know that nobody in the world is like me.48:4248 minutes, 42 secondsThat's true, man.48:4548 minutes, 45 secondsWhat's up, guys? Or ladies or fellas, I don't even know. Who knows what? You can't even tell who's got a wiener on them these days. You know, you'll take a48:5448 minutes, 54 secondschick's bra off and she's got damn two wieners on her chest. Who knows what's going on?48:5948 minutes, 59 secondsAll I know is there's a lot of flat root out there, buddy. A lot of just dang deflated wiener. That's where Blue Chew49:0849 minutes, 8 secondscomes in. Their new arousal boosting formula, Blue Chew Gold, is helping millions of men have better sex in 2026.49:1749 minutes, 17 secondsThat's right now, 2026.49:2049 minutes, 20 secondsIt's time for less talking, more rocking, less hanging, more banging, less thinking, more dinking. 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Tcoas point your toes west.52:5552 minutes, 55 secondsDid it ever become like like being Mike Tyson became um and being Iron Mike Tyson and being like um this when you53:0453 minutes, 4 secondswhen you become bigger than you? How did that affect you like as a person? Do you feel like I know the truth that I never the big I53:1353 minutes, 13 secondsdon't never that's just a some form of imagination really being some53:2053 minutes, 20 secondsbig star. I know who I am. I know what I've accomplished in life, the good, the bad, you know, but there's not many53:2853 minutes, 28 secondspeople, you know, listen, I walk with poverty and I sit with presence, you know. I just just there's not too many things I haven't done in my life, you53:3653 minutes, 36 secondsknow. So, I just um take my life day by day. I don't make too many plans, you know.53:4453 minutes, 44 secondsI I met your wife now, Kiki. Yeah. Very interesting person, huh?53:5153 minutes, 51 secondsI'm going to say she's a beautiful, nice lady. You can say she's a very interesting person. She is very interesting. I'm sure. I don't know her well. She seems very uh she has very53:5853 minutes, 58 secondskind eyes and she seems like she really cares about you. So, those are things that I noticed. And you guys have some beautiful children. I saw some of one of54:0654 minutes, 6 secondsthem I think is here. Maybe two. Two of them. Michael Miguel.54:1054 minutes, 10 secondsHe But but Miguel Miguel Loento and Milan. And Milan.54:1854 minutes, 18 secondsYeah.54:1954 minutes, 19 secondsKiki seems to just have like uh she wants to make sure that you're okay, right? Is there like or what what's like what's it like now with her with this relationship? What's this marriage like?54:3254 minutes, 32 secondsI don't know. That's too perfect. We need a little [ __ ] in that other thing.54:3854 minutes, 38 secondsYeah, we we're cool. We have a great connection, you know.54:4154 minutes, 41 secondsUm we we [ __ ] every now and then.54:4454 minutes, 44 secondsWhat's something you really love about her?54:4654 minutes, 46 secondsI just love her being a mother. She's an awesome mother, awesome wife, and an allaround beautiful person. I really hit the jackpot with this monkey. She's so54:5454 minutes, 54 secondsprecious. [cheering] Where did you meet uh Kiki at? I knew her since she was like 198.55:0155 minutes, 1 secondYeah. Is she like a strong woman in the household? Like what's that kind of energy like? Like does she make you get up early or anything?55:0855 minutes, 8 secondsNo, that's the whole thing. I don't have to move. What's that? With my wife, I don't have to move.55:1455 minutes, 14 secondsYeah. Yeah. I don't have to move. She takes care of me. Everything. I got the real wife that, you know, cooks for me, bring my food to my place. If I'm tired, she'll feed me. I I got it going.55:2455 minutes, 24 secondsOh, you got a queen, huh? Yeah. That's nice.55:2855 minutes, 28 secondsUm, then she's also she's also my my my pet and she's also my tiger, too. She's my defender.55:3655 minutes, 36 secondsSo, she has that in her, too.55:4255 minutes, 42 secondsNo, you got to have somebody that has that.55:4455 minutes, 44 secondsOh, you have to. There's nobody has the more fury than a woman. And that's just in general. There's nobody that fights more fearful than a woman.55:5455 minutes, 54 secondsOh, dude. They can make a child. If you and I laid on our back for 9 months, we couldn't make [ __ ] No, no. They could listen, they they56:0156 minutes, 1 secondcould they could they could bleed n month to leave. We get a little cut our hand. We get affection and die. You know, women are special breed.56:1056 minutes, 10 secondsYeah. Well, they're wizards. They're damn wizards. I'll say that. But they are also a great breed.56:1456 minutes, 14 secondsNo, but that's the big that's the biggest gift God could ever give us is a woman. Yeah.56:1956 minutes, 19 secondsThe most precious gift God could ever give us is a woman.56:2356 minutes, 23 seconds[screaming]56:2356 minutes, 23 secondsYeah. That's the truth. I agree. I agree, man. Hey, this is our show.56:3256 minutes, 32 secondsYeah, you heard the man.56:3556 minutes, 35 secondsI think uh like fathering and fame would seem like it's really hard for me. It's miserable. How about your life? I don't have any children yet.56:4356 minutes, 43 secondsOh, God bless you, man. What?56:4656 minutes, 46 secondsGod bless you. Cuz this doesn't work well with children. Well, I don't want I don't want things that I've said or done to influence my children's life or people to look at them a certain way or have certain expectations out of them.56:5556 minutes, 55 secondsBut I don't fear that that much. But your life has been at a at an insane amount of that like what was that? Did it make it hard for you? Like what was57:0357 minutes, 3 secondsit like fathering and having your life like and the fame?57:0757 minutes, 7 secondsI don't know. Um my kids have a great life and if they ever started complaining they should think about they should have had my father then they57:1557 minutes, 15 secondswould have a right to complain. Yeah, they do not have a right to complain. My kids go to the best schools the world offer. They have the best um they have the best opportunities the work offer.57:2557 minutes, 25 secondsIt's up to them to take advantage of it. Where was your father from?57:3357 minutes, 33 secondsNorth Carolina.57:3457 minutes, 34 secondsOh, dude. No way. I'm going to freaking Wilmington this weekend. Charlotte. He's from Charlotte.57:3857 minutes, 38 secondsOh, Charlotte. Charlotte's okay. I don't I It's I'm fine. I never been there before. You haven't? I'm fine with it.57:4657 minutes, 46 secondsI will tell you this story. So, one time I was in Charlotte, right? And I I hadn't been there before and my friend and I were sitting on a patio. We were just getting something to eat and I saw57:5457 minutes, 54 secondssomebody pushing a baby carriage out there, [snorts] right? And I thought and they were wearing like a couple of different like like shaws or like rugs58:0158 minutes, 1 secondalmost like a bunch of like tapestries and stuff over them and over the carriage. And I thought it was a uh like a homeless guy like almost like a French58:1058 minutes, 10 secondshomeless guy, right? Cuz he's French.58:1258 minutes, 12 secondsWell, just he was a very color. It looked like, dude, it was French in North Carolina.58:1758 minutes, 17 secondsWell, just because of the the the the the elegance of the Shaws and stuff.58:2158 minutes, 21 secondsThey seemed very Frenchish. Very Frenchish. And uh yeah, French. And58:2858 minutes, 28 secondsit was freaking Cam Newton pushing his newborn down the street. Are you serious?58:3258 minutes, 32 secondsI swear that is a true story. And that's the truth. But I It was him, dude. I'm keep looking. I'm like, damn, they got58:4058 minutes, 40 secondsthe most beautiful, elegant, homeless around here. They really vibing.58:4558 minutes, 45 secondsAnd then I'm like I saw people run up and get photos and it was came to me. He just had a newborn child and he was taking him for a little little afternoon58:5358 minutes, 53 secondsstroll out there by the uh McCormack and Schmicks out there. You have anybody you're in love with? Do you have anybody I'm in love with? Yeah.59:0059 minutesUh I mean it's crazy. It's crazy.59:0659 minutes, 6 seconds[cheering]59:0859 minutes, 8 secondsNobody off the top of my head. Yeah. You're not with a woman right now? No, I'm not with a woman right now.59:1359 minutes, 13 secondsNo, you're not kicking it with no one right now. I mean, I'm You know what I'm saying?59:1659 minutes, 16 secondsUh, I'm saying that How old are you? How old are you? I'm 46, dude. I'm an adult.59:2259 minutes, 22 secondsYou got the [ __ ] hair. You got that [ __ ] hair. As long as you got that hair, you got that You got the advantage of that [ __ ] What's that hair?59:3159 minutes, 31 secondsThat hair is serious [ __ ] advantage right there.59:3559 minutes, 35 secondsThe hair. It's all about the hair. If you'd had hair, you think you'd have been You think you'd have been even more handsome? If If I had hair, I wouldn't be married.59:4459 minutes, 44 secondsI'd be in lawsuits and all that [ __ ]59:4659 minutes, 46 seconds[laughter]59:4959 minutes, 49 secondsI had lawsuits. That's crazy, bro.59:5359 minutes, 53 secondsThat's hair is power. That's why when they did that about fing cuz really hair is power.59:5859 minutes, 58 secondsWell, that's even when they used to scout people and stuff and take their hair, they was taking, you know, they were taking something they felt. That's why I grew my hair a lot. People represent power. That's why they always1:00:061 hour, 6 secondstrying to cut your hair, boy. You look like a boot animal. Cut your hair. Cut your hair. Keep your [ __ ] hair. Yeah, [ __ ] I want to be an animal.1:00:121 hour, 12 secondsYeah. Keep your [ __ ] hair. Cuz once you lose your hair, you go always wish you had it back. Some guy say, "Oh, it was in the way." No. Was in the way, [ __ ] You wish you had your hair back.1:00:211 hour, 21 secondsIt was The only thing that was in the way of was in the way of you being a little [ __ ] That's the only thing it was. Huh?1:00:261 hour, 26 secondsWell, let that hair grow. Don't care how much you grow. Let it grow. Let that [ __ ] Let the people say, "Oh, you're an animal. You can't get a job." You can get a job with a lot of hair now.1:00:341 hour, 34 secondsYeah. You can get a job at Cork. You can get a job as a mechanic assistant.1:00:361 hour, 36 secondsAnything. Anything. That makes more money than the average person by far.1:00:411 hour, 41 seconds[laughter]1:00:421 hour, 42 secondsYeah, bro. You could just brush your hair online and dudes will pay to watch you do it.1:00:481 hour, 48 secondsYo, listen. That online thing, it's either the the best thing a pedophile could ever dream of or else it's the biggest the biggest hit in the world.1:00:581 hour, 58 secondsOne of the It's the worst, bro. Do you think you've seen times change, bro? Same. But like how bad? Like things are not bad, but things just gotten so much different.1:01:081 hour, 1 minute, 8 secondsIt's gotten away from the Everything became sexual lately and everybody's worried about who's sleeping with who.1:01:161 hour, 1 minute, 16 secondsEverybody's worried about who genders who and who looks like this. And it's all about that now.1:01:231 hour, 1 minute, 23 secondsYeah. It's uh there used to be so much more. I think I don't know when you couldn't record everything, the moment was so great. Because then also if I1:01:301 hour, 1 minute, 30 secondsneeded to know a story, the only way I could get it was from you or from somebody that told it well. And so that person had like I don't know, they had an ambiance about1:01:391 hour, 1 minute, 39 secondshim. There might be a dude in town only all he did was tell one good story or no.1:01:431 hour, 1 minute, 43 secondsThat's happened since the beginning of life. Yeah. And now it's suddenly different. Yeah.1:01:471 hour, 1 minute, 47 secondsAnd now we have people out here losing their minds and [ __ ] Killing themselves, hurting.1:01:521 hour, 1 minute, 52 secondsKilling themselves. Mike, did nobody kill themselves. When I was a kid, nobody was killing themselves. If you were angry or depressed, you just listened to heavy metal and walked around town.1:02:011 hour, 2 minutes, 1 secondRemember that?1:02:021 hour, 2 minutes, 2 secondsYes. Oh, man. That's, you know, it's just it's interesting that people are doing that now.1:02:081 hour, 2 minutes, 8 secondsWe're sick though. There's not There's something poisoning us. Do you agree with that?1:02:121 hour, 2 minutes, 12 seconds100%. I I I know the government know what it is. Yeah. I ain't telling. You know, because death is profitable.1:02:211 hour, 2 minutes, 21 secondsYou know, people cashing on your insurance and all that [ __ ] Death is very profitable. Even at the morg, dude, my buddy freaking died. They put they1:02:291 hour, 2 minutes, 29 secondsput new shoes on him, charges his family 300 bucks. I'm like, [ __ ] he's wearing them for 50 minutes. Just get a rental and they got a whole fresh pair.1:02:401 hour, 2 minutes, 40 secondsThat's crazy, man. But I agree. There's something the government knows, man. So now people are going to have to rise up.1:02:451 hour, 2 minutes, 45 secondsSomething's going to have to happen. Do you believe that people have that in us still? Or do you believe I believe I believe this. I believe that some people even if they're elite1:02:531 hour, 2 minutes, 53 secondspeople, they have the money and have the the resources to live longer, healthier.1:02:591 hour, 2 minutes, 59 secondsYou know, imagine being 90 and living healthy. You can still run. You can still [ __ ] You can still do things for your family.1:03:071 hour, 3 minutes, 7 secondsJump, cross over. Exactly. No, serious.1:03:101 hour, 3 minutes, 10 secondsYeah, I feel you. You think that's possible for some people right now in their husband right now? Absolutely right. Absolutely.1:03:171 hour, 3 minutes, 17 secondsCuz the [ __ ] that I use now, all this met and all this [ __ ] [ __ ] Dicks can't you. This shit's crazy. Yeah.1:03:251 hour, 3 minutes, 25 secondsFeel young. That's all. That's why I be going fighting again. Do next week. I feel good.1:03:301 hour, 3 minutes, 30 secondsNext thing they going to give you some kind of guy now that you sniffing makes you smarter. What is it? I don't know what it listen.1:03:391 hour, 3 minutes, 39 secondsYou're laughing now, but when it comes out, you can say Mike was talking about that. You'll be hitting that [ __ ] and Yeah.1:03:451 hour, 3 minutes, 45 secondsOh, yeah. I don't know if you get if you get too smart, you might have a [ __ ] brain collapse, right? Plus a aneurism or some [ __ ]1:03:521 hour, 3 minutes, 52 secondsI don't want to There's a lot of [ __ ] I don't want to know.1:03:551 hour, 3 minutes, 55 secondsDude, the smarter I get, I feel like the more I heard of, bro. No, but listen. Um, they got stuff.1:04:011 hour, 4 minutes, 1 secondCheck this out. Imagine somebody say, "I have something in this needle that'll make you last1:04:081 hour, 4 minutes, 8 seconds30 more years strong or make your thick stay hard 24 hours or something like that." That's what people are working1:04:151 hour, 4 minutes, 15 secondsat. They whatever they want, whatever our biggest um kinks are, right? It could be sex, it could be alcohol, they give you a shness, no more1:04:231 hour, 4 minutes, 23 secondsalcohol in your life, no more drugs in your life. It's all about the It's going to be all about the needles soon and pills. Oh, needles and pills.1:04:321 hour, 4 minutes, 32 secondsDid you were you ever a needle user or not?1:04:351 hour, 4 minutes, 35 secondsWell, I used a lot of needles. Yes, I have. Yeah, I use a lot of needles.1:04:391 hour, 4 minutes, 39 secondsCuz that's a different barrier when you go into drug use. Like I've used a lot of stuff. I never used no needles. I've used like steroids, but I never used uh1:04:461 hour, 4 minutes, 46 secondslike, you know, shooting up like uh whatever it's called. Heroin. Heroin. Yeah.1:04:551 hour, 4 minutes, 55 secondsYeah. I never used it. Now, I wish I would have smoked crack. I will say that. Stay away from crack. Really? You don't normally come back.1:05:031 hour, 5 minutes, 3 secondsReally? Watch you go crack. You don't come back.1:05:061 hour, 5 minutes, 6 secondsWhat was it? Did you ever get to smoke it?1:05:091 hour, 5 minutes, 9 secondsI did once and Oh, no. Oh, this is going to be [ __ ] crazy. I got to tell you this. Please, dude.1:05:151 hour, 5 minutes, 15 secondsSo, one day, um, you know, I do my monthly checkup, but I'm still getting high. I'm going to get my checkup with my probation officer. And he gets my1:05:241 hour, 5 minutes, 24 secondsprobation officer. He gets my test, a blood test. I'm not even thinking. And he comes back. I come back. He said, um,1:05:321 hour, 5 minutes, 32 secondsthey, um, we just test you for, um, crack, but I could tell what he what they call them. Um, what do you call a crackhead?1:05:411 hour, 5 minutes, 41 secondsOh, a uh crack a what? Tweaker.1:05:471 hour, 5 minutes, 47 secondsTweaker. He said, "Yeah, but I I got I I had I had it in me." But he said, "Yeah, I know a tweaker. You're not a tweaker.1:05:531 hour, 5 minutes, 53 secondsThat's a force test." I said, "Fuck." He knew by sight.1:05:571 hour, 5 minutes, 57 secondsYeah. He said, "I could tell a tweaker." He said, "You're not a tweaker." Because it was by accident. I didn't know it was the Oh, it was just in there.1:06:041 hour, 6 minutes, 4 secondsYeah. I took it without the guy telling me.1:06:061 hour, 6 minutes, 6 secondsI didn't know. And the cop said that to me said, "Yeah, you got force test, but I could tell a tweaker you're not a tweaker." Amen.1:06:121 hour, 6 minutes, 12 secondsThat glad. Thank you for telling me that word tweaker.1:06:141 hour, 6 minutes, 14 secondsThank you for the tweaker, God. That's good stuff.1:06:171 hour, 6 minutes, 17 secondsAnd I said, "Fuck, that guy gave me that shit." That's the thing. You don't know what you were getting.1:06:211 hour, 6 minutes, 21 secondsExactly. I didn't even f I'll be dead as a [ __ ] You got out before fentanyl. Thank God. Huh?1:06:271 hour, 6 minutes, 27 secondsMy wife would tell you, right? It came out the news that Mike died from a from a drug overdose at his party. And my wife started it was on the news. And the1:06:361 hour, 6 minutes, 36 secondsonly thing I come in the house a couple hours later, my wife, my wife screamed at me, cursed at me. Oh [ __ ] I'm high. I just left the house and kept running.1:06:441 hour, 6 minutes, 44 secondsIt was a false story.1:06:451 hour, 6 minutes, 45 secondsYeah, it was a news, too. My wife saw me and hit me. I got the house left. I left.1:06:521 hour, 6 minutes, 52 secondsGod, she was pissed. Even if he was alive, she was pissed. I was alive. [laughter] Pissed I was alive. And her her mother was pissed, too.1:07:021 hour, 7 minutes, 2 secondsYeah. They crying everything. They think I'm dead. They checking morg and [ __ ] and for the hospitals and u I walk1:07:101 hour, 7 minutes, 10 secondsthrough the door high. I'm I'm I'm coked up high and drunk.1:07:161 hour, 7 minutes, 16 secondsI just left out. [ __ ] this [ __ ] like that, man. These [ __ ] they can't they don't Yeah. They don't love me,1:07:231 hour, 7 minutes, 23 secondsdude. Yeah. Did you ever have those days where you stayed up multiple days from doing cocaine or No.1:07:291 hour, 7 minutes, 29 secondsYeah, absolutely. So, listen. I'm I'm tell this [ __ ] story. So I can't get1:07:361 hour, 7 minutes, 36 secondsany sleep. So I'm calling the person. My nose hurt like a [ __ ] Right. So ah my nose I'm a And so I'm calling the person and I'm saying my nose is hurt.1:07:471 hour, 7 minutes, 47 secondsI'm [ __ ] I can't sleep. I've been up for 4 days. My nose is hurting. I got scabs on my nose. She said the nose hurt? She said you got any coke? I said1:07:551 hour, 7 minutes, 55 secondsyeah. She said here hit. I said I said wow that feels better.1:08:011 hour, 8 minutes, 1 secondI never knew I had the coco on. I should have took a hit and nothing did cuz it got um it wasn't numb anymore. It started bleeding, got sore like to take1:08:091 hour, 8 minutes, 9 secondsanother hit to numb it up, man. Oh, those nights are the worst, huh?1:08:141 hour, 8 minutes, 14 secondsOh, man. Uh the worst, bro. Did you ever have to sneak into a hospital or did you have a private doctor? Because how Yeah. Um yeah, this is true. Oh god.1:08:241 hour, 8 minutes, 24 secondsListen, I go to my doctor, right?1:08:281 hour, 8 minutes, 28 secondsYour doctor. Hold on. Let's let's say let's get a round of applause for Mike's doctor. Bro,1:08:361 hour, 8 minutes, 36 secondsI go to my doctors and I go like this. I said, "This is I'm I'mma lay a spill on my doctor and I'mma quit cocaine right now." And I'm and he's checking me,1:08:451 hour, 8 minutes, 45 secondsright? Giving me, you know, checking out. And he said, "How you doing?" I said, "Doc, you know, I'm feeling bad. I need to quit." And he1:08:531 hour, 8 minutes, 53 secondssaid, "What?" I said, "I need to quit coke." He said, "Really? You taking a lot lately?" I said, "Yeah." They said, "You have some on you." I said, "Yeah,1:09:001 hour, 9 minutescan I have some?" I said, "Fuck the doctor. My brother, this is on my children's life." And I'm like, "Fuck."1:09:071 hour, 9 minutes, 7 secondsI'm trying to get help. I'm talking to the doctor about I got a problem. You have some on now. Can I have some? And they took he was that Blue Cross Blue Shield?1:09:161 hour, 9 minutes, 16 secondsNo. Was that No, I go to I go to rehab now, right?1:09:201 hour, 9 minutes, 20 secondsThey put me in rehab. And this is what I do. the guy that the rehab staff right comes up here and he tells me all the rules and then I try to be a good guy. I give him my Coke, the last bit of Coke.1:09:301 hour, 9 minutes, 30 secondsHe normally mean I was doing Coke before I came, you know, nor make before you go rehab, you get really hot. Yeah.1:09:351 hour, 9 minutes, 35 secondsSo, I gave him the Coke. I really wanted to get So, I gave him the Coke. My last Coke. I said, "Here, I got some Coke." He, "Oh, you have some." Then he went1:09:421 hour, 9 minutes, 42 secondsand then next time I saw him, he started acting funny. I said I think it better.1:09:471 hour, 9 minutes, 47 secondsI took my Coke [laughter] cuz I was some good coke. I want to I want to be a good person and give it up. The [ __ ] took my coke. So I said, "Hey, man. You1:09:551 hour, 9 minutes, 55 secondstook my [ __ ] coke. You got to stop letting me have girls come over here." So you let me have girls come over at the rehab. Yeah.1:10:021 hour, 10 minutes, 2 secondsWhat? [laughter] My hand on my children's life, man.1:10:051 hour, 10 minutes, 5 secondsOh, you listen. I can't make [ __ ] like this. The rehab guy said, "You got coke?" And I and I give her, "No, I don't want to get high with her. I'm try1:10:131 hour, 10 minutes, 13 secondsto look clean." This man go away for free. He comes back acting weird. Yeah.1:10:181 hour, 10 minutes, 18 secondsI mean, I know this [ __ ] didn't take my coke.1:10:211 hour, 10 minutes, 21 secondsI got mad cuz I should have kept that [ __ ] there.1:10:241 hour, 10 minutes, 24 secondsType [ __ ] Mad. I got so [ __ ] mad. Dude, I'll tell you this freaking story.1:10:281 hour, 10 minutes, 28 secondsSo, one time my friend, we're getting out of a uh Uber, he dropped some coke, right? And I didn't know he did Coke.1:10:351 hour, 10 minutes, 35 secondsAnd I didn't know I did Coke, right?1:10:391 hour, 10 minutes, 39 secondsI'm in there. [laughter] So, I pick his Coke up. I had never seen it before. I just saw this little bag and it I registered pretty quick. is is1:10:471 hour, 10 minutes, 47 secondsprobably cocaine, right? And so we go inside. We're staying at my buddy Kevin's house. Um we go inside and he1:10:541 hour, 10 minutes, 54 secondsstarts saying, "Hey, will you help me look for something?" But he won't he won't tell me what it is because he doesn't want me knowing that he's want to give me that's what it is.1:11:031 hour, 11 minutes, 3 secondsYeah. Yeah. [laughter] That's what it is, bro. So I keep sneaking off and doing the code cuz we're looking really hard, right,1:11:111 hour, 11 minutes, 11 secondsbro? After like 2 hours, he goes to sleep. I'm still looking for the [ __ ] and doing it, bro.1:11:181 hour, 11 minutes, 18 secondsAnd I forgot what I was even looking for, but I kept looking, bro, cuz that's who I am. I'm committed.1:11:251 hour, 11 minutes, 25 secondsI'm that [ __ ] that will ride with you.1:11:281 hour, 11 minutes, 28 secondsI got to tell you this story about cocaine. Okay. Okay.1:11:311 hour, 11 minutes, 31 secondsI'm in first I'm in Jamaica, right?1:11:361 hour, 11 minutes, 36 secondsAnd I leave Jamaica, hang out with Jamaica, hang out there, and I go to Cuba for, you know, it's very close. Hour, half an hour.1:11:431 hour, 11 minutes, 43 secondsDid you get to meet Fidel in Cuba or not? No. Interesting though. Check this out.1:11:461 hour, 11 minutes, 46 secondsSo, I'm in Cuba, right? I'm hanging out and so guy meets me. Hey, you're Mike Tyson, right? Yeah. Yeah.1:11:541 hour, 11 minutes, 54 secondsHey, Mike, what's wrong? Is everything okay? I see. See, everything's great.1:11:571 hour, 11 minutes, 57 secondsYeah. I have lots of money. Yeah. You need a girl. This is a possibility. Yes, I do. [laughter and clears throat] Um1:12:051 hour, 12 minutes, 5 secondsYou're [ __ ] genius, right? So he [laughter] takes me, listen, but you got He takes me around this. It's nothing but bricks and rocks abandoned. Look1:12:131 hour, 12 minutes, 13 secondslike a bomb at the bot. Disgusting. And I'm like I think this guy setting me up to get mugged or something here, right?1:12:201 hour, 12 minutes, 20 secondsAnd all of a sudden this beautiful girl, she had raggedy clothes. She comes out of this [ __ ] the clap the dilapidated building that look got hit by a bomb.1:12:281 hour, 12 minutes, 28 secondsNobody lives in there. This all abandoned [ __ ] And she comes out. I said, "What the fuck?" Wow. Yeah, but this is why I'm talking about Castro,1:12:371 hour, 12 minutes, 37 secondsyou know. Um, the natives there were unable to live. They can't go in the hotels there. The people that live to the residence cuz they don't want to talking to people that are visiting.1:12:451 hour, 12 minutes, 45 secondsI don't know. But they're not allowed to go in the hotel. The Mr. Castro allowed me to take people to my hotel. They let me do whatever I wanted to do. Oh, wow.1:12:531 hour, 12 minutes, 53 secondsYeah. He was really nice. I had I what I think I had a fight there. I do bottles. I didn't get arrested or nothing.1:13:001 hour, 13 minutesTelling people, "Leave me alone. Let me do what I want." Damn. Anybody else would have been throwing bottles and stuff on Cuban, they would have got [ __ ] up. They would have been in the1:13:091 hour, 13 minutes, 9 seconds[laughter] They would have been the hospital. Then they would have been the infirmary.1:13:131 hour, 13 minutes, 13 secondsThen they would have been in jail. What made you want to go to Russia? Because that was kind of like a like why, you know what I'm saying? Like they I don't1:13:221 hour, 13 minutes, 22 secondseven know. First of all, did they even at the time have black people in Russia? Yes.1:13:281 hour, 13 minutes, 28 secondsDid they really? Cuz they never put them on like the websites or anything.1:13:321 hour, 13 minutes, 32 secondsRussia. They know they came to Russia around 1909. Black people did. Yeah.1:13:381 hour, 13 minutes, 38 secondsYou know, um, and they've been I met black Ukrainian. I met black Russian. This is really amazing [ __ ] to see that. Yeah.1:13:451 hour, 13 minutes, 45 secondsCuz you probably wouldn't even think that would have happened, right? No. Till they start talking. Yeah.1:13:501 hour, 13 minutes, 50 secondsWow. Dude, that's cool. That's one cool thing about traveling. Sometimes, bro, this is a true thing. You might see somebody that looks like you and their1:13:581 hour, 13 minutes, 58 secondstheir mother might be black and then father might be white or something African or something.1:14:031 hour, 14 minutes, 3 secondsWell, you just realize that like, oh, there's so many people out there. Like when I was in my little town, I thought heaven was only going to be people in our town, right?1:14:111 hour, 14 minutes, 11 secondsListen, let me tell you something about Russian people and Ukrainian people, right?1:14:161 hour, 14 minutes, 16 secondsYou listen. No. Yeah. Um, I'm up there, right? And so we got some call girls1:14:241 hour, 14 minutes, 24 secondssupposedly call girls, right? some call girls.1:14:261 hour, 14 minutes, 26 secondsYeah, supposedly call girls. They're excuse they're exports, they call them. Yeah.1:14:311 hour, 14 minutes, 31 secondsAnd listen, I'm saying to myself, I want to talk to my friend in um Yugoslavia.1:14:361 hour, 14 minutes, 36 secondsShe talks Yugoslavia. She calls them that. I want to talk to a friend that's staying in China. She talks to the she1:14:431 hour, 14 minutes, 43 secondsthey common the common call girl was speak around seven languages.1:14:481 hour, 14 minutes, 48 secondsYeah. You know, a call girl in America can't even speak English [laughter] and can't speak a home language. These1:14:561 hour, 14 minutes, 56 secondsmother call girl speak seven lang. I'm trying to think, how can I get this girl from here to America? She like this girl be a Fortune 500 company. [laughter] I'm1:15:041 hour, 15 minutes, 4 secondstelling you, she speaks eight languages and stuff. Been to the best school. She's a call girl. Dang. Like, whoa.1:15:131 hour, 15 minutes, 13 secondsAnd women here, they barely will even learn even one language or even one and a half languages. They're not even going to learn how to cook. Yeah.1:15:201 hour, 15 minutes, 20 secondsYou know what I mean? Like we don't know how to cook, dude. Some women can barely use even emojis. I don't know how to use it either.1:15:281 hour, 15 minutes, 28 secondsYeah. But still, you shouldn't have to, dude. You're Mike Tyson, man.1:15:321 hour, 15 minutes, 32 secondsNo, I'm here saying women here have it made. They have Women here have it made it made. Other countries, you can't have a You can't have a say of nothing.1:15:401 hour, 15 minutes, 40 secondsYeah, I guess. Yeah. I guess I don't realize how bad like women have it pretty bad. Japan, you you see mostly women if they're in prison in Japan because they killed their husband.1:15:491 hour, 15 minutes, 49 secondsNuh-uh.1:15:501 hour, 15 minutes, 50 secondsMajority of them Yeah. They just can't stand the abuse of him or something.1:15:531 hour, 15 minutes, 53 secondsOh, damn. Japan. Can you imagine?1:15:571 hour, 15 minutes, 57 secondsMm- Because they're so peaceful a lot of times. We had a [ __ ] Japanese uh substitute teacher1:16:041 hour, 16 minutes, 4 secondsand he didn't even say anything to us cuz he didn't want to bother us. That's how nice he was. We didn't learn anything. That's how scandy he was.1:16:121 hour, 16 minutes, 12 secondsYeah, that's how scared he was. Well, we didn't learn anything for 4 days because he he he was he was he didn't even want to bother us. [snorts] Um, you fought in Japan against Was it who was it?1:16:221 hour, 16 minutes, 22 secondsI had two fights in Japan. Some good fights. Bust Douglas and someone else. Tony Tuts.1:16:271 hour, 16 minutes, 27 secondsBuster Douglas. That's when you won the championship. I lost the championship. Oh, damn. Sorry. No, sorry. I'm happy I got $40 million.1:16:341 hour, 16 minutes, 34 secondsYou got $40 million? 35. Yeah. Wow. Same [ __ ] though.1:16:401 hour, 16 minutes, 40 secondsYeah. But I round it even. [laughter] Yeah, dude. That's so wild, bro. But but1:16:481 hour, 16 minutes, 48 secondsbefore that fight, you weren't Did you Were you training as hard or were you just like living the life?1:16:531 hour, 16 minutes, 53 secondsI was living the life, but um he fought a great fight. Yeah, I think that he fought a great fight, dude. I remember we were like I was living in Charleston, South Carolina at1:17:011 hour, 17 minutes, 1 secondthe time, and somebody had bought the fight with like a projector, and they projected it on the side of like a building, and everybody came downtown and watched it. Dude, it was awesome,1:17:101 hour, 17 minutes, 10 secondsbro. It was a good time, man. It was like uh when you fought it was like it brought everybody. It was like watching the Challenger blow up. Everybody showed up, you know?1:17:201 hour, 17 minutes, 20 secondsThe Challenger did blow up. Remember that?1:17:221 hour, 17 minutes, 22 secondsEverybody watched the whole television that whole day watched it over and over again. That's like those guys that went in the water with the submarine and combust inside post.1:17:321 hour, 17 minutes, 32 secondsYeah, he took his son down. This guy took his son down there.1:17:351 hour, 17 minutes, 35 secondsBut they went down there in a [ __ ] MacNugget. You know that shit's going to happen, dude. Bro, it said cutless on the side of it. It was a Delta 88. I'm like, you got in that [ __ ]1:17:441 hour, 17 minutes, 44 secondsThey just like I don't want to. I shouldn't say that. They're good. They They got They got smashed. They They didn't even feel it.1:17:531 hour, 17 minutes, 53 secondsThey didn't feel it. That's tight, boy.1:17:561 hour, 17 minutes, 56 secondsFeel cuz I hate even getting in a small shirt. You ever put a small shirt on and you can't even get out of it? Oh, I like being a small.1:18:041 hour, 18 minutes, 4 secondsIf you Mike Tyson.1:18:061 hour, 18 minutes, 6 secondsYeah, dude. Dude, I went to Hulk's funeral, man. Did you really? Yeah. Tell me about that.1:18:111 hour, 18 minutes, 11 secondsIt was pretty special, man. Like, well, it was a lot of things. It was like Where was it at?1:18:151 hour, 18 minutes, 15 secondsRight outside of Tampa. Right outside of Tampa. And um well, one thing that was interesting, Jim McMahon was there, but nobody knew he was there. And then at1:18:241 hour, 18 minutes, 24 secondsone point he came out uh like uh Vince McMahon. Yeah. You ever met Jim McMahon? That's his father.1:18:321 hour, 18 minutes, 32 secondsNo, Jim McMahon was a quarterback for the Chicago Bears. Remember him?1:18:351 hour, 18 minutes, 35 secondsOh, he's badass. Funny glasses. Yeah, he had that mullet, dude. He showed me his freaking butthole one time in in uh Palm Springs at a casino for no reason.1:18:461 hour, 18 minutes, 46 secondsNo, it was the reason [laughter] that the reason he figured you out.1:18:531 hour, 18 minutes, 53 secondsHe figured you out. He That's like a quarterback. He's a great quarterback.1:18:571 hour, 18 minutes, 57 secondsGreat perception. [laughter] Quarterback perception.1:19:011 hour, 19 minutes, 1 secondBut look at this receiver, [laughter] bro. That's crazy, dude. But anyway, you're right.1:19:081 hour, 19 minutes, 8 secondsLeave that hole open. [laughter] Tell me about him showing you that but tell me about that. How did that appear?1:19:161 hour, 19 minutes, 16 secondsWhat What caused it?1:19:181 hour, 19 minutes, 18 secondsWell, nobody was expecting it. It was just like a regular night. And um Have you ever hung out with him before?1:19:231 hour, 19 minutes, 23 secondsI never met him before. And he was drinking beers and he kept he was saving all the cans. I think cuz he was like he's like a um what's it called when you1:19:321 hour, 19 minutes, 32 secondscare about the nature when you're like a um [ __ ]1:19:361 hour, 19 minutes, 36 seconds[laughter] [ __ ]1:19:421 hour, 19 minutes, 42 secondsHe was Don't be saying that have a lawsuit. You saw his [ __ ] I saw it. It was Dor. I mean, but Jim McMahon, you're welcome to come on1:19:501 hour, 19 minutes, 50 secondsand have a lawsuit. This man saw your1:19:531 hour, 19 minutes, 53 seconds[ __ ]1:19:531 hour, 19 minutes, 53 secondsWhat? Dude, why are you You said you saw the [ __ ] He may think differently.1:20:001 hour, 20 minutesWell, look, [laughter] he may say that was a cheek. That wasn't an [ __ ] Mike is working in Now you working for1:20:091 hour, 20 minutes, 9 secondsan attorney's office. I know it [laughter] is.1:20:131 hour, 20 minutes, 13 secondsWas it a cheek or a man? Damn, you tricked me. I just said I don't know. But I knew it was a little while ago. You're right. I'm not sure.1:20:221 hour, 20 minutes, 22 secondsIt was shadowy out, but I do remember we were by the pool and it was night time.1:20:261 hour, 20 minutes, 26 secondsBut anyway, yeah. Saw him open up some cheeks, right? Spread his cheeks, right? But everything in my just like mind, I guess, thought there was an1:20:341 hour, 20 minutes, 34 seconds[ __ ]1:20:341 hour, 20 minutes, 34 secondsHe say, "Come get it, guys." No. Come on, guys. No, he wasn't saying anything like that.1:20:431 hour, 20 minutes, 43 secondsHe was telling a joke about his ex-girlfriend or something and then he said uh and then he said the punch line.1:20:501 hour, 20 minutes, 50 secondsI don't remember it. And then he just kind of showed his showed his butthole at the end.1:20:541 hour, 20 minutes, 54 secondsThe running back. He said, "Come right up in there." Dude, the running back for the show.1:20:581 hour, 20 minutes, 58 secondsUh, who was the running back at the time? It wasn't Payton, was it? No. Sers. No, Sers was earlier. Too old.1:21:061 hour, 21 minutes, 6 secondsWas it? No. Was it really? And 85 Bears was Payton.1:21:111 hour, 21 minutes, 11 secondsRight up in here. Big pig. Walter. Come on. Come on. Walter. Get over here. Walter. Huh?1:21:181 hour, 21 minutes, 18 secondsI didn't mean to see it.1:21:211 hour, 21 minutes, 21 secondsBut yeah. Anyway, let's move on. But here's what I'm going to say is. So Vince McMahon comes out there. Nobody knew he was at the funeral. And it was1:21:281 hour, 21 minutes, 28 secondswild because they had guys like they had beef too.1:21:311 hour, 21 minutes, 31 secondsYeah. Well, I think over the years they'd had a lot of issues, right? But all a lot of my favorite wrestlers were there and they were kind of broken down, you know, some were in wheelchairs and1:21:391 hour, 21 minutes, 39 secondssome were like um some were some people had urns of other like uh of guys who had passed on. They had their ashes just1:21:471 hour, 21 minutes, 47 secondsthey brought them. Um, but Vince McMahon got up and he did like he played Hulk's music and he did all like a lot of his like things, you know, and then he made like a speech and then he disappeared.1:21:561 hour, 21 minutes, 56 secondsBut, uh, but it was it was everything.1:21:591 hour, 21 minutes, 59 secondsIt was like, you know, he was so much of my childhood. He was like one of the first person that I ever saw like in our neighborhood like a lot of people didn't have anything, but when wrestling came1:22:081 hour, 22 minutes, 8 secondson, it felt like you had something. I don't know why. Right. It's like a soap opera for kids. Yeah.1:22:121 hour, 22 minutes, 12 secondsYou know, we know the story. They double team him. They cut him up. They put them to sleep. They jump th him over the rope. [ __ ] Yeah.1:22:211 hour, 22 minutes, 21 secondsYeah. All of that. But it but anyway, so that was like our hero.1:22:241 hour, 22 minutes, 24 secondsIt was like a soap. We knew it was a story line.1:22:261 hour, 22 minutes, 26 secondsBut we as kids, we thought it I think you believe it's so real. Oh, 100%.1:22:301 hour, 22 minutes, 30 secondsIt was so good. So that was like one one of our that was one of our heroes. So to go was just Yeah. I don't know. It was pretty special. And his son like gave a speech. It was nice, man. It was just1:22:391 hour, 22 minutes, 39 secondsAnd but it didn't feel like he passed away because he's was he's so much larger than talk the whole on the show.1:22:451 hour, 22 minutes, 45 secondsYep. And I'll tell you this, when when I met you downstairs and I got to shake your hand, I was like, "That's the that's the strongest person I'd ever1:22:531 hour, 22 minutes, 53 secondslike could we give us like a mini hug?" I said, "That's I walked out and said, that's the strongest person I've ever given a mini hug to." The second strongest was Hulk Hogan.1:23:021 hour, 23 minutes, 2 secondsReally? Yep.1:23:031 hour, 23 minutes, 3 secondsHulk was massive, man. He was a big star. He's just such a big star. You could never imagine how big he was. Who was like a hero to you like that?1:23:111 hour, 23 minutes, 11 secondslike in the in um Bruno Sammartino. Bruno Sam Martino. That's my hero. My guy. Wow.1:23:171 hour, 23 minutes, 17 secondsHe could beat He was champion for 12 years. Yeah.1:23:201 hour, 23 minutes, 20 secondsHe could beat everybody. He was champion. Listen, I was seven until I was like what? Seven till like 20 almost.1:23:301 hour, 23 minutes, 30 secondsYeah. Champion.1:23:321 hour, 23 minutes, 32 secondsHe was a legend, man. I got to interview one of the Von Erics one time, Kevin Von Eric. I don't know if you remember. They died. Yeah. Oh, I'm Listen, man. I'm a historian.1:23:401 hour, 23 minutes, 40 secondsDon't play with me now. Ask me some questions. I'm a historian.1:23:451 hour, 23 minutes, 45 secondsUm I have read actually that you like studied a lot of like uh like you really enjoy like philosophy like uh Toltoy. Um1:23:531 hour, 23 minutes, 53 secondsAlexander the Great. Um who were some like famous warriors that you admire the most kind of in history?1:23:591 hour, 23 minutes, 59 secondsOh, all of them. Achilles, Alexander, Hannibal, there was just Elsid. There was just so many different concepts. You1:24:071 hour, 24 minutes, 7 secondssay why do you want to do this? Because no why some of them want to be God. They believe if I control all this world, if1:24:141 hour, 24 minutes, 14 secondsI control the world, I'm a god. And they still at the end of the day, they realized they were nothing, you know.1:24:221 hour, 24 minutes, 22 secondsBut can you even relate to that? Like did you ever have a time in your life where you're because our ego is one of the scariest things, right?1:24:271 hour, 24 minutes, 27 secondsUm you can only play with the thought of it. It's not sincere. It's not real. Yeah.1:24:351 hour, 24 minutes, 35 secondsOnly way you're a god. If you if you live forever, you're immortal, you know.1:24:411 hour, 24 minutes, 41 secondsBut we have demigods now. Now we have uh we have authors that turn people into gods, you know, like what do you mean by that?1:24:501 hour, 24 minutes, 50 secondsUm some people would never be forgotten.1:24:521 hour, 24 minutes, 52 secondsNapoleon, all these guys. To know your history, you have to know these people.1:24:571 hour, 24 minutes, 57 secondsThey're part of history. We can't know our history if we don't know these people. That's what makes them godly.1:25:031 hour, 25 minutes, 3 secondsOh, only if we know them. You'll never get to know them unless you read about them. They're only in special places to know their identity.1:25:131 hour, 25 minutes, 13 secondsDid you like what was one of the toughest times you ever had with your own ego? Cuz like ego is just so scary, right?1:25:181 hour, 25 minutes, 18 secondsI don't know. My ego is is so um personal, you know.1:25:251 hour, 25 minutes, 25 secondsI don't know how to even say I just want to do better than before. I don't think I have, you know, I do think I'm Alexander the1:25:331 hour, 25 minutes, 33 secondsGreat sometimes. You know, I don't care what I think I am. What are you talking about? Like you do like you dressing up in the bedroom. What you doing? A little role playinging.1:25:411 hour, 25 minutes, 41 secondsPut on that ATG hat. It says ATG on it.1:25:441 hour, 25 minutes, 44 secondsNo, it's just that the way I conduct myself. He was a cancer too, Alexander.1:25:481 hour, 25 minutes, 48 secondsAnd what his downfall was was he's moody.1:25:511 hour, 25 minutes, 51 secondsI learned that not to let my moods control my feelings. He was really moody. That was his downfall.1:25:581 hour, 25 minutes, 58 secondsWhat helped you like have discipline like say say something like that you notice about yourself? What helped you create like some little disciplines like like that? Um, the best way to to1:26:061 hour, 26 minutes, 6 secondsreceive discipline is to do what you hate to do, but to do it like you love it. You do that, that's discipline.1:26:141 hour, 26 minutes, 14 secondsAnd is that something you've really practiced?1:26:161 hour, 26 minutes, 16 secondsThat's all I practice my whole life, even now.1:26:221 hour, 26 minutes, 22 secondsDid you always love fighting or did you hate fighting or No, I loved it. I loved I loved the concept of fighting. I loved the the1:26:301 hour, 26 minutes, 30 secondsfighters. I was so I wanted the greatest fighters of the world and know my name.1:26:331 hour, 26 minutes, 33 secondsI was I would you know I would be on my knee, kiss their hands, kiss their feet.1:26:381 hour, 26 minutes, 38 secondsI love them. I worship them. I believe that they touch me. They have need some magic on me. So I always wanted to be around. I carried their bags for them. I1:26:471 hour, 26 minutes, 47 secondsgave them money when I became a big time fight. I always gave them money cuz they norally broken down and have no money.1:26:531 hour, 26 minutes, 53 secondsYou know, most of them have dementia. So I always gave them money, took care of them.1:26:571 hour, 26 minutes, 57 secondsGave it and took it away if they got that dementia. You feel me? They run it right back. Right.1:27:011 hour, 27 minutes, 1 secondBut um I just thought that But paying homage, you're saying I Yeah, I had to pay homage cuz if I didn't even see these guys, I wouldn't want to be who I am today. These guys1:27:091 hour, 27 minutes, 9 secondsinspired me to be fighter. I didn't want to be nothing else. Even though I saw that they turned out I normally would turn out like these guys, nothing begging. I still wanted to be a fighter.1:27:181 hour, 27 minutes, 18 secondsI didn't care. I didn't I wanted to be in that kind of I wanted to be in that fraternity. Dude, that's so interesting to hear.1:27:241 hour, 27 minutes, 24 secondsYeah. I I never think about that. It's like Yeah. Like I didn't just we didn't just come up with the idea of ourselves1:27:311 hour, 27 minutes, 31 secondsall by ourselves. Like there was so much influence in people that did something before us that like let us no matter what our job is or what our thing is1:27:391 hour, 27 minutes, 39 secondsthat we like to do in life. That's interesting man. I forget about that sometimes like yeah sometimes I get I don't get stuck there much but sometimes it'll be like oh like yeah I made me.1:27:511 hour, 27 minutes, 51 secondsDo you ever think about who you are? How you really got here? what you really consist of. Is there something more than1:27:581 hour, 27 minutes, 58 secondsyou? Are we gonna see each other again at another time? Are we living in parallel lives? Is this right here going on somewhere else in life?1:28:071 hour, 28 minutes, 7 secondsWe have so much energy. We don't even know about ourselves. We know everything else, but we know nothing about us.1:28:121 hour, 28 minutes, 12 secondsOh yeah, dude. I didn't like most of my life, I wasn't even me. I was1:28:201 hour, 28 minutes, 20 secondsjust I was just like some survival mechanism that had started off. Does that make any sense to you?1:28:251 hour, 28 minutes, 25 seconds100%. That's the first thing that happened. Self-preservation starts first and then once we get situated, then we try to figure everything else out.1:28:341 hour, 28 minutes, 34 secondsYeah.1:28:351 hour, 28 minutes, 35 secondsYeah, man. It took forever. Like it took me probably 30 years just to exhale, you know?1:28:411 hour, 28 minutes, 41 secondsI understand. I understand, brother. I understand.1:28:441 hour, 28 minutes, 44 secondsAnd then it's scary because there was times I thought, man, like I don't even know if I wanted to be like a funny guy.1:28:501 hour, 28 minutes, 50 secondsI might even be wanted somebody that worked at like a um clothing like a habdasher or whatever or like a a singer, but I but I but that was the1:28:581 hour, 28 minutes, 58 secondsfirst thing that I could get people to like you get attention.1:29:011 hour, 29 minutes, 1 secondYeah. I see you. And so I could like I was just I there was I didn't have another choice that formed everything I was, you know, I wanted to be seen so much. I was a1:29:101 hour, 29 minutes, 10 secondslittle baby and my mother and her friends, everybody was having fun drinking. I put my finger in D, you know, and put in my mouth and I wanted1:29:171 hour, 29 minutes, 17 secondsthem I started screaming. They grabbed me and took me to the hospital. But I wanted that attention at such a young age.1:29:231 hour, 29 minutes, 23 secondsYeah. Oh, I love going to the hospital, dude. Because they had good food back then, too. And they give you attention, bro.1:29:301 hour, 29 minutes, 30 secondsYeah, dude. They had a couple ladies would come in and care about you. Even a gay dude, they slip in there every now and then. But still, bro, that Jim McMahon1:29:391 hour, 29 minutes, 39 secondslove is love. Hey, bro. Love is love.1:29:441 hour, 29 minutes, 44 secondsI got a question, Mike. Uh did did anybody ever cuz I just got back from Lexington, right? Lexington, Kentucky and they have1:29:511 hour, 29 minutes, 51 secondsthe the Derby race there and it's a beautiful place. We just shot a special for Netflix actually that's coming out uh in like about 2 months. So I'm excited about that. But did anybody ever approach you to buy your seaman?1:30:041 hour, 30 minutes, 4 secondsAnd I mean that honestly.1:30:061 hour, 30 minutes, 6 secondsAnd I don't mean that in like a negative word.1:30:101 hour, 30 minutes, 10 seconds[clears throat]1:30:101 hour, 30 minutes, 10 secondsNo, I mean I gave it away free. Why did they want to buy it?1:30:181 hour, 30 minutes, 18 secondsBro, dude, we're giving our busted ass semen away out here and you over there. Dang, bro.1:30:271 hour, 30 minutes, 27 secondsFree. What?1:30:301 hour, 30 minutes, 30 secondsI had no idea they were selling. They were buying. Dude, you I'll be a billionaire by now.1:30:371 hour, 30 minutes, 37 secondsYou can still, bro. Long as you can still warm up a badge, bro. You can sell it at the merch stand over here. Well, I if I was single, I would.1:30:461 hour, 30 minutes, 46 secondsOh, look. I That's true. Kiki might have an issue with it. Maniac.1:30:511 hour, 30 minutes, 51 secondsGod. Bro, I could give her a couple ounces for you out back at this joint today, man.1:30:581 hour, 30 minutes, 58 secondsI'm happy the way my life is now.1:31:001 hour, 31 minutesYeah. What's What's a few things before we go, Mike? What's a few things that make you uh that bring you some of the most joy that you have today? And they can be something small. It could be anything.1:31:101 hour, 31 minutes, 10 secondsJust my children. I have to live the life that I live. That's the only thing. That's all I care about. Is it? That's all I care about.1:31:181 hour, 31 minutes, 18 secondsYeah. Is that something?1:31:191 hour, 31 minutes, 19 secondsAnd this and this might even make them strong, but I won't take the risk. It might kill them, too. Wait. Say that one more time for me.1:31:251 hour, 31 minutes, 25 secondsI say it might even make them strong, but it might kill them, too.1:31:281 hour, 31 minutes, 28 secondsOh. To have to go through the same stuff. Yeah. Yeah.1:31:311 hour, 31 minutes, 31 secondsI don't want to take the chance. I like the way they living now. Yeah. Well, you did it. Yeah. Man, a lot of help. A lot of help.1:31:391 hour, 31 minutes, 39 secondsA lot of help. Yeah. Yeah. We don't do it alone.1:31:441 hour, 31 minutes, 44 secondsExcuse me. No. No way. No way. You realize real quick when you have children, you need help. Yeah.1:31:521 hour, 31 minutes, 52 secondsYou need a lot of help.1:31:541 hour, 31 minutes, 54 secondsUm, thank you so much for joining us today, Mike. I want to say um [applause]1:32:021 hour, 32 minutes, 2 secondsyou have a a one you have a oneman show that's going to be try that's a live show that your wife wrote. Is that right? Yes, she did.1:32:101 hour, 32 minutes, 10 secondsWow. And did she have to get you to sign off? Did y'all do some teamwork or what was it?1:32:141 hour, 32 minutes, 14 secondsSign off for what matter? That this is her work and I don't get any money for it. What do you mean sign off? I mean to you.1:32:211 hour, 32 minutes, 21 secondsDid she just like say or was it like did you guys like how do you put that together? Cuz it's just interesting that she would write it. Is it just about just talk? Just talk.1:32:291 hour, 32 minutes, 29 secondsJust talk.1:32:291 hour, 32 minutes, 29 secondsJust talk about dark [ __ ] you know? It works out well. Yeah.1:32:351 hour, 32 minutes, 35 secondsUm, like you'll love it when you hear the mid the [ __ ] story. You got a good one in it.1:32:391 hour, 32 minutes, 39 secondsOh, and it's in the It's in the show. Oh, yeah. Yeah.1:32:431 hour, 32 minutes, 43 secondsSave some of Yeah. I want I You know what? I'll come out to one. You got to check this out, man.1:32:471 hour, 32 minutes, 47 secondsI'll come out. I'll even come on stage and just listen to it. I'll put on something little for you.1:32:531 hour, 32 minutes, 53 secondsNot for you. For just I'm I'll just wear it. Tell me about little. How little works. How that works.1:32:581 hour, 32 minutes, 58 secondsI'll put on a small thong. You wear a thong. No, [laughter] no, bro. I'm just saying a small shirt.1:33:061 hour, 33 minutes, 6 secondsBut you have that one man show that's going to be and that's going to be a tour. We'll see. Okay.1:33:121 hour, 33 minutes, 12 secondsWe see how much they're paying me for it and we'll see.1:33:141 hour, 33 minutes, 14 secondsAnd you have uh and you have your um documentary that's coming out on Netflix. Yes, I do.1:33:201 hour, 33 minutes, 20 secondsYou do. Um if uh you guys know every [ __ ] thing about you already. What the [ __ ]1:33:271 hour, 33 minutes, 27 secondsI don't know. We learned a lot tonight, dude. Um, if c if if custom model could see you uh now and see your whole life,1:33:351 hour, 33 minutes, 35 secondsright? If he could see your whole life, do you know and just get to spend some time with you today, what do you think like what would be something that you1:33:421 hour, 33 minutes, 42 secondswould like to like a moment you would like to see with him or or have him say?1:33:471 hour, 33 minutes, 47 secondsWhat do you think would be something that he'd be impressed by?1:33:501 hour, 33 minutes, 50 secondsI would say cuz everybody in the world says I'm the best ever. What do you think? [laughter] What do we think, guys?1:34:051 hour, 34 minutes, 5 secondsBut know what he would say. You know what would say? What would he say, man?1:34:121 hour, 34 minutes, 12 secondsYou didn't move your head enough. If that guy was a little faster, he would have hit you. [laughter] If that guy was a little faster, he would have hit you.1:34:211 hour, 34 minutes, 21 secondsYeah.1:34:221 hour, 34 minutes, 22 secondsKnock a guy 8 seconds. If he was a little faster, he hit you. Had your head up.1:34:271 hour, 34 minutes, 27 secondsUm, man, thank you so much for sharing your time with us today. My for bringing your family here today, just for the opportunity that we get to see you.1:34:331 hour, 34 minutes, 33 secondsThey all love you. I don't know who the [ __ ] you are. But my family knows, but they love you. My kids love you. Who the1:34:391 hour, 34 minutes, 39 seconds[ __ ]1:34:411 hour, 34 minutes, 41 secondsDo you know the truth, dude? I don't know who the [ __ ] I am either, bro. I wish I did, too. But hey, but I love you, man. Thank you so kindly, bro.1:34:491 hour, 34 minutes, 49 secondsAnd that's the truth. And uh and thank [cheering] you, ladies and gentlemen, Mike Tyson.1:35:021 hour, 35 minutes, 2 seconds[cheering]1:35:031 hour, 35 minutes, 3 secondsNow I'm just falling on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must [music] be corner stone.1:35:141 hour, 35 minutes, 14 secondsOh, but when I reach that ground, [music] I'll share this piece of mind I found. I can feel it in my bones.