Joe Rogan Experience #2574 – Francis Foster & Konstantin Kisin

The Joe Rogan Experience · Episode 2574 · Host: Joe Rogan · Guests: Francis Foster, Konstantin Kisin · Published Oct 31 2026 · Runtime 2:38:15 · Watch: YouTube

Francis Foster and Konstantin Kisin of TRIGGERnometry are back with Joe Rogan. They cover fake stories and engagement farming, Britain’s missing air conditioning and energy prices, religion and the left, city life versus nature, child stars, Tutankhamun and ancient king lists, the legend of Timur’s tomb, the war with Iran, protests, communism, what AI could do to work and meaning, and why every success story starts with failure.

Chapters
  • 0:00 Brazil’s election and the Bolsonaro family, fake breaking stories, Grok fact checks, bot armies, why outrage pays on X, TRIGGERnometry’s left-and-right guest list and the Piers Morgan talk-over model.
  • 9:00 The 1970s ice-age scare and Leonard Nimoy’s In Search of…, why England has no air conditioning, heat deaths versus cold deaths, Britain’s 1% of emissions, electricity prices, global greening and EV tax breaks.
  • 20:20 Texas trying to ban marijuana as alcohol sales fall, GLP-1s, Joe’s theory that a secular left fills the gap with causes, the church parking lot, gratitude and polls that only reach people who answer polls.
  • 28:00 Pastors rewriting the Bible, the Latin Mass, Colorado’s cannabis tax, Ron White’s joints at the Mothership, a long break from alcohol, glutathione and a doctor who scoffed at vitamins.
  • 34:40 Lawsuits and service culture in Britain, Desmond Morris’s The Human Zoo, Fire Island, 24-hour New York, East London kids in the countryside, Colum Tyrrell’s Big Bend night sky and shrugging off online hate.
  • 44:00 Parties defined by their craziest members, clips versus long-form talk, Texas attack ads, The View’s fact check, the border and the census, Kamala Harris on the courts, Kash Patel’s FBI and a Venezuelan Uber driver.
  • 56:00 Power concentrated in corporations and government, outrage porn and “post-content clarity,” Francis’s book (Un)educated, audiobooks, TV versus YouTube and why Outdoor Boys walked away.
  • 1:06:40 Child stars, Zac Efron and Macaulay Culkin, Tutankhamun’s DNA, the Sumerian and Egyptian king lists, a 13-month calendar, the Sphinx erosion debate and Herodotus’s labyrinth.
  • 1:19:50 Made-up gods, Genghis Khan, Timur’s statue in Tashkent, the tomb curse and Operation Barbarossa, the Khwarazmian envoy’s pile of bones, Alan Watts and why AI is a different level of challenge.
  • 1:29:00 The war with Iran: the Strait of Hormuz, Robert Pape’s case that Iran comes out stronger, Houthi strikes, diesel prices, drones, Scott Horton on enrichment and air defenses at Mar-a-Lago.
  • 1:51:40 Where the anti-war protests are, No Kings, “Blair without Iraq,” masked ICE agents, revolutions, people who lived under communism, young people locked out since the crash, Alaska’s fund and Money for Nothing.
  • 2:11:00 Francis’s pencil-sharpening student, Happy People, Danny Drinkwater, The Status Game, jiu-jitsu and failure, “No Laughs Eddie” Izzard, comedians who stay 45-year-old boys, universal income and the Odyssey.
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People

On this episode

Joe Rogan

Host. Explains why he only wants good-faith guests, shares his theory on religion and the secular left, and his church parking-lot test. 8:00

Francis Foster

Discussed for: (Un)educated — Amazon

Comedian, TRIGGERnometry co-host and host of The Francis Foster Show. A former East London teacher, he talks about his book and the students who stayed with him. 1:01:02

Konstantin Kisin

Comedian, commentator and TRIGGERnometry co-host. Talks about how his parents and grandparents were raised in the Soviet Union and why AI is a different level of challenge. 1:28:00

People mentioned

Piers Morgan

His shouting-panel format is held up as the opposite of a good-faith conversation. 7:29

Leonard Nimoy

Discussed for: In Search of… — Amazon

Host of In Search of…, which once ran an episode on the coming ice age. 9:36

Elon Musk

Comes up on birth rates and as one of the people building AI. 36:00

Joe Biden

Joe says his cabinet was running the country, part of why he voted Republican. 49:20

Kamala Harris

Her talk of adding Supreme Court seats and new states comes up as a reason for Joe’s vote. 51:12

Donald Trump

Discussed for the border, the crime drop and the decision to go to war with Iran. 51:20

Robert Pape

The political scientist who told TRIGGERnometry the war would leave Iran a stronger regional power. 1:34:55

Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Comes up over Ukraine’s strikes on Russian refineries and who is to blame for diesel prices. 1:36:40

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Products

In Search of… (Leonard Nimoy, complete series) — The 1970s documentary series that ran the ice-age scare alongside Bigfoot and UFOs. Amazon 9:38

The Human Zoo (Desmond Morris) — The book on how city life affects people the way zoos affect animals. Amazon 36:32

(Un)educated (Francis Foster) — Francis’s book about life as a teacher in East London. Amazon 1:01:02

The Wisdom of Insecurity (Alan Watts) — The early-1950s book one of them just finished, which reads like it was written about today. Amazon 1:27:07

Joker (2019) — Named as a film that resonated with people who feel frustrated and betrayed. Amazon 2:05:08

Brothers in Arms (Dire Straits) — The album with Money for Nothing, quoted during the universal-income talk. Amazon 2:10:09

Happy People: A Year in the Taiga — The documentary about Siberian trappers and hunters who live off the land and seem content. Amazon 2:15:21

The Status Game (Will Storr) — The book on status-seeking that explains why people resent a footballer who takes an ordinary job. Amazon 2:20:12

The Odyssey (Homer) — The story that kept a classroom of kids locked in, now a Christopher Nolan film. Amazon 2:36:12

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Discussed on the show

Grok — Joe wants posts that Grok proves false taken down. Wikipedia 2:54

TRIGGERnometry — Francis and Konstantin’s show, eight and a half years in. Official site 6:21

GLP-1 drugs — One reason alcohol sales are falling. Wikipedia 20:36

Glutathione — Joe’s tip for drinking nights. Wikipedia 32:51

The View — Its fact check of Joe’s comments on the border. Wikipedia 49:05

Flock Safety cameras — Brought up as a surveillance concern. Wikipedia 54:55

Outdoor Boys — The giant survival channel whose creator walked away. Wikipedia 1:05:20

Sumerian King List — Ancient rulers listed with reigns of thousands of years. Wikipedia 1:14:55

Labyrinth of Egypt — The complex Herodotus said outdid the pyramids. Wikipedia 1:19:27

Timur — The Central Asian conqueror called a mini Genghis Khan. Wikipedia 1:21:56

Operation Barbarossa — The German invasion that began the day after Timur’s tomb was opened. Wikipedia 1:22:58

Khwarazmian Empire — Its envoy found a mountain of bones on the way to China. Wikipedia 1:25:22

Twelve-Day War — The earlier strike on Iran’s nuclear sites, which made sense to one guest. Wikipedia 1:46:50

No Kings protests — Big turnout, unlike protests over the Iran war. Wikipedia 1:54:45

Alaska Permanent Fund — Its yearly dividend comes up as a small model for sharing AI wealth. Wikipedia 2:08:42

Brazilian jiu-jitsu — Everybody starts out terrible, which is the lesson. Wikipedia 2:22:14

Universal basic income — Whether money without work would cut crime. Wikipedia 2:32:30

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Places

Brazil — The opening topic: the election and the Bolsonaro family. Wikipedia 0:19

Colorado — The first state to legalize cannabis and tax it heavily. Wikipedia 30:05

Comedy Mothership, Austin — Ron White brings his joints by; Zac Efron has been coming to the club. Official site 31:21

Austin, Texas — Friendlier than California, and a city of only about a million people. Wikipedia 36:00

Fire Island, New York — The car-free island that lets a friend of Joe’s keep living in Manhattan. Wikipedia 37:43

East London — Where Francis taught before writing his book. Wikipedia 40:59

Big Bend National Park, Texas — One of the best places to see the night sky. Wikipedia 42:00

Venezuela — Francis’s link to the country and a Venezuelan Uber driver’s message. Wikipedia 52:59

Great Sphinx of Giza — The water-erosion argument for its age. Wikipedia 1:18:42

Tashkent, Uzbekistan — Home to the giant statue of Timur. Wikipedia 1:21:46

Gur-e-Amir, Samarkand — Timur’s tomb, opened by Soviet archaeologists in 1941. Wikipedia 1:22:28

Strait of Hormuz — Ships now need escorts through it. Wikipedia 1:29:35

Mar-a-Lago, Florida — Where surface-to-air missile systems have been deployed. Wikipedia 1:50:48

Alaska — Residents get a yearly check from the state’s oil fund. Wikipedia 2:06:47

Siberia — Setting of Happy People: A Year in the Taiga. Wikipedia 2:15:21

Leicester — Danny Drinkwater won the Premier League there with Leicester City. Wikipedia 2:18:06

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