Former CIA officer John Kiriakou tells Theo he has applied for a presidential pardon and is talking with Tulsi Gabbard. They go from a college recruitment and the morning of 9/11 through the Abu Zubaydah capture, interrogation, and Guantanamo. Later he covers surveillance, the CIA guides he wrote, and prison.
Chapters
- 0:00 New guide to CIA skills, a pardon application, and Tulsi Gabbard.
- 2:31 George McGovern, superdelegates, and a party that kept insurgents out.
- 16:16 Dr. Post marks the paper, then says he is recruiting for the CIA.
- 24:13 Executive Order 12333, and the overnight change after 9/11.
- 32:10 Cofer Black walks into a briefing for the bin Laden unit.
- 35:11 Word comes in that the World Trade Center is on fire.
- 39:32 The capture of Abu Zubaydah.
- 43:22 Netanyahu recording, a rule against spying on Israel, and the Massie race.
- 58:02 Interrogation with no training, a full jail in Rawalpindi, then Guantanamo.
- 1:10:07 A plea deal for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that gets vacated.
- 1:43:39 Snowden, a Utah data site, and the Skyhorse guides in one volume.
- 1:51:31 Prison visits, intake, the Aryans, and a captain in the Bonanno family.
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People
On this episode
Theo Von
Official site · The Comedian List
Host. 0:00
John Kiriakou
Guest. Former CIA officer. New book, and a podcast he calls John Kiriakou’s Briefing Room. 0:16
People mentioned
Abu Zubaydah
The capture he walks through. Later he says Abu Zubaydah is who he was talking about when he described a torture program. 39:32
Cofer Black
Shows up for the briefing. Kiriakou introduces him as director of counterterrorism. 32:10
Edward Snowden
The warnings Kiriakou credits for what the public knows about NSA and CIA collection. 1:43:39
Tulsi Gabbard
He is talking with her on Friday. Theo brings up her husband headed into surgery. 1:00
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Products
The Ultimate Guide to CIA Skills, Tactics, and Techniques — the new volume he says rolls the earlier guides together. Amazon 1:45:01
Surveillance and Surveillance Detection: A CIA Insider’s Guide — one of the Skyhorse books he names. Amazon 1:44:44
Lying and Lie Detection: A CIA Insider’s Guide — named with the same series. Amazon 1:44:48
How to Disappear and Live Off the Grid: A CIA Insider’s Guide — the third guide he lists. Amazon 1:44:48
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Places
- George Washington University
- Pakistan
- Afghanistan
- Israel
- Rawalpindi
- Guantanamo
- Loudoun County, Virginia
- Utah
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