We Might Be Drunk Podcast
Gaten Matarazzo & Sean Giambrone on Child Stardom, Star Wars & Gen Z Sobriety
Netflix Top 10, Oscar diversity mandates, creepy fan encounters, Lego Jedi debates, and why Gen Z is quietly canceling alcohol — all in one episode. Full timestamps, sponsor codes, quotes, and clip breakdowns below.
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Quick Reference
3 Best Quotes
⭐ "Movies are like magazines — they might be out soon, which is a sad state of affairs." — Sam
⭐ "Diversity is great as long as it's not forced — it gets weird when you need a spreadsheet to cast a movie." — Mark
⭐ "I don't enjoy the rabbit holes — I'm not even logged into my account on my phone." — Gaten
Top Books This Episode
- Train Dreams — Denis Johnson (~17:00)
- The Caine Mutiny — Herman Wouk (~42:00)
- All Quiet on the Western Front — Remarque (~43:00)
- Where's Papa? — Robert Klane (~43:00)
- Being There — Jerzy Kosiński (~26:00)
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Episode Overview
Mark Normand and Sam Morril open with Mark's Netflix special None Too Pleased cracking the Top 10, then pivot into Seth Meyers stories, Conan's Oscar hosting, and a heated debate on the Academy's new diversity mandates for Best Picture eligibility. The conversation ranges from Timothée Chalamet's bizarre ballet controversy to Doja Cat's rare moment of social-media self-awareness.
When Sean Giambrone (The Goldbergs) arrives, the episode shifts into old-Hollywood nostalgia — George Segal memories, Cary Grant hypnotist rumors, and a deep rec stack of overlooked 70s films. Gaten Matarazzo (Stranger Things, Lego Star Wars) joins next, triggering the episode's best section: child stardom's dark side, the "crush since you were 13" phenomenon, social media detox strategies, and why Gen Z is quietly abandoning alcohol.
All four close on pet peeves — plane feet, rude customers, cosplay at serious theater — before Mark and Sam plug their touring schedules. Sean and Gaten's stoner comedy Pizza Movie (Hulu/Disney+) is the connective thread throughout.
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Top Quotes & Soundbites
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Movies are like magazines. They might be out soon, which is a sad state of affairs.
Sam Morril · ~22:00 · On theatrical decline
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Diversity is great as long as it's not forced. It gets weird when you need a spreadsheet to cast a movie.
Mark Normand · ~31:00 · On Oscar representation rules
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I'm not even logged into my account on my phone. I don't enjoy the rabbit holes.
Gaten Matarazzo · ~34:00 · On stepping off social media
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I once broke up with a girl for being rude to a bartender. I couldn't let it go.
Sam Morril · ~1:22:04 · On character judgment
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Planes are public transportation. That's what planes are.
Sean Giambrone · ~1:21:14 · On in-flight etiquette
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Anytime we tell a sex story on stage, something has to go wrong.
Sam Morril · ~1:09:09 · On comedy structure
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We invested in silent films and the talkies took over.
Mark Normand · On launching Bodega Cat whiskey as Gen Z goes sober
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You're going to need a clipboard and a spreadsheet to make a movie now.
Mark Normand · ~31:24 · On compliance-driven casting
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Timestamp Directory
00:00
Netflix Special & Early Banter ⭐
None Too Pleased hits Top 10; Drake hot-sauce lore
02:00
Canceled Episode Speculation
Mystery guest teasing; Reddit rumors denied
05:00
Comedy & Late-Night Grind ⭐
Shay Shay, Zach Lowe's pod, edgy jokes vs. "people upstairs"
09:00
Seth Meyers Stories
Generosity, joke-writing, Beacon show; late-night pre-interviews
13:00
Oscars & Conan's Hosting
Michael B. Jordan bits, DiCaprio career-vs-Oscar calculus
17:00
Ballet, Opera & Doja Cat
Chalamet ballet pile-on; Doja's rare public apology
22:00
Hollywood Diversity & Oscar Rules ⭐
New Best Picture mandates; "Daily Wire Oscars" prediction
26:00
Filming Costs & Locations
Budapest vs. California; Thomas Edison pushes Hollywood west
33:00
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37:00
Introducing Sean & Pizza Movie
Hulu/Disney+ stoner comedy; SXSW premiere
42:00
Old Movies & George Segal
Goldbergs, Cary Grant hypnotist story, 100-yr-old nona's film taste
49:00
Gaten Joins & Star Wars ⭐
Lego Star Wars Jedi; Empire vs. prequels vs. Rogue One
56:00
Fame & Odd Messages
"Crush since 13" story; gender double standards; pedo-repellent arm hair
1:03:00
Child Actors, Auditions & Serial Killer Casting
Dark audition offers; how environment breaks child stars
1:11:00
Gen Z vs. Alcohol & Phones
Liquor sales dropping; social media as behavioral deterrent
1:18:00
Pet Peeves & Etiquette ⭐
Plane feet; rude customers; cosplay at serious theater
1:23:00
Upcoming Shows & International Tour
Mark: Lexington, Fort Lauderdale, Providence; Sam: LA, Verona, Lisbon
1:27:00
Outro Song & Vibe
Original WMBD outro; plugs for Bodega Cat and Patreon
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People Mentioned
Co-Host · Stand-Up
Mark Normand
Netflix special None Too Pleased just cracked the Top 10. Touring heavily; creator of Bodega Cat Whiskey. Discusses late-night TV, Oscars, and pet peeves throughout.
Tickets →Co-Host · Stand-Up
Sam Morril
Knicks superfan, podcast fixture, touring US and Europe. Shares a cut Stephen A./Epstein joke and introduces the "near enemy" concept. Broke up with a girl over waiter rudeness.
Tickets →Guest · Actor
Sean Giambrone
The Goldbergs (10 seasons), voice of Jeff on Clarence, co-lead of Pizza Movie. Shares George Segal stories, Italian-name chest-hair riffs, and old-movie recommendations.
Guest · Actor
Gaten Matarazzo
Stranger Things, Dear Evan Hansen (Broadway), Lego Star Wars: Rebuild the Galaxy, co-lead of Pizza Movie. Discusses social media detox, Gen Z drinking trends, and Dark Side of fame.
Referenced · Late-Night Host
Seth Meyers
Praised for comedian-friendly generosity. Once vouched for Mark on a date. Steak dinner at Chelsea Hotel and Beacon show anecdote. Mark calls him genuinely funny off-camera.
Referenced · Actor
Daniel Radcliffe
Voices "Bobby the Butterfly" in Pizza Movie. Contrast drawn with his intense Imperium role. Couldn't film an on-set cameo in Syracuse so switched to voice-over.
Referenced · Classic Hollywood
Cary Grant
Sean's dad's favorite actor. Old-Hollywood hypnotist anecdote, bisexual rumors, and proto-Clooney charisma unpacked. Sean rattles off his best films as "homework."
Referenced · Pop Star
Doja Cat
Used as a rare example of social-media self-correction — publicly admitted she piled on Chalamet "for clicks." Praised for honesty while acknowledging the irony.
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Stories & Anecdotes
Personal
Mark Normand · ~3:09–3:24
The Seth Meyers Date Assist
A date tells Mark she knows Seth Meyers. Later, Mark discovers Seth had quietly vouched for him — "he's cool" — which he credits as a clutch social endorsement he never expected from a late-night titan.
Quiet industry respect pays off in the most unexpected ways.
Personal
Mark Normand · ~12:34–13:04
Chelsea Hotel Steak → Gotham Bomb
After the Seth dinner, Mark takes his wife to the Chelsea Hotel for a celebratory steak, riding high on the night. He then insists on doing a set at Gotham Comedy Club — and bombs hard. The night that had everything ends in humiliation.
Know when to end on a win. The second show is almost never the right call.
⭐ Star Moment
Gaten Matarazzo · ~59:24–1:00:05
The "Crush Since You Were 13" Encounter
An adult woman approaches Gaten and tells him she's had a crush on him since he was 13. He shrugs it off — "weird but not traumatic" — while the internet reacts with predictable fury. Mark and Sam break down the obvious gender double standard and why public reaction is actually the correct corrective force here.
Gendered double standards around parasocial attraction exist, and public reaction can set the record straight when individuals can't.
Industry
via Santino · ~33:13–33:18
Santino's Budapest/Croatia Arbitrage
Flying an entire production crew to Budapest and Croatia was cheaper than filming in California. Framed as a direct consequence of LA's regulatory overhead and union costs — the same forces that pushed early Hollywood from New Jersey west in the first place.
Global production arbitrage beats local bureaucracy. Thomas Edison's grip on New Jersey echoes in California's grip today.
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Key Concepts & Ideas
Oscar Representation Standards
~29:34–31:58
New Academy rules require certain thresholds of underrepresented groups in cast, crew, or marketing for Best Picture eligibility. Mark and Sam joke about writing movies around spreadsheets — extras in gay bars, Pacific Islander quotas — and predict a counter-movement (the "Daily Wire Oscars") that rewards films explicitly ignoring the mandates.
Near Enemy Theory
~26:25–26:34
Borrowed from Sam Harris: people attack proximate, "winnable" enemies (fellow liberals, celebrities) rather than distant, powerful targets. Applied here to explain why Timothée Chalamet becomes a safe lightning rod for internet rage while genuine crises — war, corruption, Epstein-level scandals — go largely unchallenged.
Environment-Driven Child-Star Damage
~58:23–58:53
Gaten argues young performers are harmed less by acting itself than by the exploitative networks that form around them — opportunistic parents, predatory executives, and adult fans with poor boundaries. Nickelodeon is name-checked as a failed steward. The solution is curating your environment before it curates you.
Gen Z Drinking Decline
~1:13:52–1:15:12
Liquor sales reportedly down ~85% with Gen Z as they trade booze for weed/THC drinks and fear permanent phone-recorded cringe moments. Mark jokes they launched Bodega Cat Whiskey at "the worst possible time." Gaten frames smartphones as a stronger behavioral deterrent than moral reasoning ever was — getting drunk is less fun when everything is on camera.
Public-Space Etiquette as Character Test
~1:21:00–1:22:33
Sean's "dogs and piggies" plane-feet rant and Sam's breakup-over-bartender story establish a thesis: how you treat service workers and shared spaces is one of the clearest windows into character. Both agree it's a dealbreaker-level signal, not a quirk to overlook.
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Action Items & Takeaways
Quick Win
Watch the rec stack
Where's Papa?, Being There, All Quiet on the Western Front (remake), The Caine Mutiny. Instant film literacy upgrade.
Habit
Log out of social media on your phone
Gaten's strategy: friction kills idle scrolling. Not deleted — just not instantly accessible.
Habit
Build stories around what goes wrong
Sam and Mark's rule: failure beats create funnier, more memorable material than wins. Bake in the loss.
Quick Win
Use Sam's bartender test
Watch how someone treats service staff. Sam broke up over it. Your call — but notice it.
Major Undertaking
Audit your environment as a young creative
Gaten's framework: who surrounds you matters more than your talent. Avoid exploitative managers, parents, executives early.
Habit
Try swapping one booze night for THC
Willie's Remedy+ or similar — social buzz, no hangover, no cringe footage. Relevant to the Gen Z sobriety conversation.
Major Undertaking
Get life insurance sorted
Ethos makes it 10-minute online. Most people "plan to do it" for years. Mark's point: the longer you wait, the more it costs.
Habit
Read Train Dreams by Denis Johnson
Mark and Sam agree: dense, emotional, short. "70s movie vibes" in novella form. Weekend read that earns its weight.
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Media Referenced
Special
Watch →
Mark Normand: None Too Pleased
Netflix — currently in Top 10. Major press run ongoing.
Film
Watch →
Pizza Movie
Hulu / Disney+ — Sean & Gaten, Daniel Radcliffe, Sarah Sherman. "Harold & Kumar meets Everything Everywhere."
TV
Stranger Things
Netflix — Duffer Brothers. Gaten's breakout role; 80s nostalgia anchor.
TV
The Goldbergs
ABC — Sean's 10-season run from age 13–23. George Segal's final role.
TV
Lego Star Wars: Rebuild the Galaxy
Disney+ — Gaten voices an orange-saber Jedi. Double-nerd Lego+Star Wars energy.
Film
All Quiet on the Western Front (2022)
Netflix — German remake praised as better than the original. Rare case where new beats old.
Film
Amazon →
Being There (1979)
Peter Sellers. Based on Jerzy Kosiński novel. Sean's top rec for old-movie homework.
Film
Amazon →
The Caine Mutiny (1954)
Humphrey Bogart. Jim Norton's homework assignment. Mark: "pretty damn cool."
Book
Amazon →
Train Dreams — Denis Johnson
Short novella with 70s-movie emotional weight. Mark and Sam both recommend.
Book
Amazon →
Where's Papa? — Robert Klane
George Segal gem. Mark immediately: "put that on the rec list."
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Best Clip Opportunities
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"Are the Oscars now decided by spreadsheet?"
~29:34–31:58 · Mark on Oscar diversity mandates and the "clipboard casting" prediction. Spicy, quotable, and high comment-potential across both culture-war audiences.
Entertainment / Culture · High Virality
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"Did Gen Z just cancel alcohol?"
~1:13:52–1:14:06 + whiskey outro · 85% stat + Bodega Cat punchline. Great for Reels/TikTok. Affiliate opportunity with Willie's Remedy+.
Health / Lifestyle · Affiliate Ready
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"When a compliment crosses into creepy."
~59:24–1:00:05 · Gaten's "crush since 13" story. Strong emotional reaction, easy to share, provokes gender-double-standard discussion.
Entertainment / Safety · Discussion Starter
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"The rare celebrity who admitted she did it for clicks."
~19:43–20:58 · Doja Cat's Chalamet apology. Taps creator guilt and the "is this authentic?" question everyone asks online.
Social Media / Culture · Creator Audience
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"The one behavior that made me end a relationship."
~1:22:04–1:22:33 · Sam's bartender breakup story. Highly comment-able "would you dump someone for this?" setup. Broad appeal.
Relationships / Etiquette · Broad Appeal